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Push or flat? Push or flat?

05-25-2017 , 04:50 PM
Cash game. 15th hour. I'm not sure I remember it 100% but somewhat close. I'm utg with AA. I raise to $12 and get 3 callers. Flop A78 rainbow. BB checks, I bet $25 and it folds to bb who makes it $50. Effective stack: about $240. My image: close to maniac. I had a lot of good hands but also bluffed a lot. So with that min raise I put him on a set or 2 pair and......... pushed the rest. The guy didn't play too many hands (I actually don't remember him playing a hand in 2 hours but due to a long session I wasn't too attentive in the end). So I push and my thought behind this is that he will put me on AK and call with a set. He obviously wasn't bluffing and had a big hand. If I reraise to $100, this looks more suspicious. I guess the best play is flat? Just want to see what others think. My leak was underbetting my good hands but did I push too far with a top set?
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05-25-2017 , 05:13 PM
15th hour like 3 pm, or your just a marathoning beast?

I really think any line you take ends up in the same place. I'd focus on what I want the observant opponents to think I do with nuttish hands... fast/slow play, or maybe better for someone who already has an image, if you want to show deviation from how you'd play your bluffs on such a run-out.

Also, it's much easier on the eye to do HH like a data display vs an essay. Formatting matters... along with blind sizes. I'm assuming 1/2... If 1/3 not sure we're deep enough to lag it up.
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05-25-2017 , 05:27 PM
Hard to read your HH a bit.

So I don't think there's any interesting decision here until you face the flop raise. If I'm reading correctly, if you were to flat the flop raise, there'd be about $150 in the pot, and you'd have about $180 left in your stack? Assuming that's the case, I flat the flop raise. We have position here, and stacks are very easy to get in by betting like $70 on the turn (assuming he checks to you) and shoving river for $110 more.

The reasons I prefer flatting:

1. As noted it's very easy to gii without reraising flop.
2. Board is dry, so there aren't any real scare cards that can come on the turn to kill our action.
3. With such a dry board we don't really have many combos that would semi-bluff here.

More generally, I wouldn't worry about maximizing value when V flops a set. You guys will gii in that case anyway. I'd focus on maximizing value when he has some more marginal hands (Ax, 87 or other two pair, T9, etc.) I think calling the flop bet accomplishes that.
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05-25-2017 , 05:47 PM
He had 87, put me on AK and called. He talked through it. He was very observant btw... He was between calling and folding.
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05-25-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
15th hour like 3 pm, or your just a marathoning beast?

I really think any line you take ends up in the same place. I'd focus on what I want the observant opponents to think I do with nuttish hands... fast/slow play, or maybe better for someone who already has an image, if you want to show deviation from how you'd play your bluffs on such a run-out.

Also, it's much easier on the eye to do HH like a data display vs an essay. Formatting matters... along with blind sizes. I'm assuming 1/2... If 1/3 not sure we're deep enough to lag it up.
I am, I played through the night till evening of the next day because I was running like a god. 17 h session. 1/2 nl
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05-25-2017 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
I'd focus on maximizing value when he has some more marginal hands (Ax, 87 or other two pair, T9, etc.) I think calling the flop bet accomplishes that.
Nothing interesting, just wanted to see if my line (turning AA into AK by shoving) makes any sense. I suffer from fancy play syndrome sometimes.
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05-25-2017 , 08:31 PM
Flat the flop raise. No need to blow V off of whatever he has. We have position. We can easily get stacks in by the river.

V is a bad player. He should be snapping you off once you jam the flop.
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