Hero: AA. $280 stack.
Villain: Early 30's, LAG. $500 stack. Threw out terms like betting thin, etc. when discussing hands. The one interesting observation about his play is he check/raises an unusually large proportion of the time. Spots were you would expect him to lead out or check/call, he c/r. I saw his hand only twice when c/r. One he c/r original preflop raiser with KQ on Qxx board. Turn K. He c/r again. Second one I saw, he c/r original preflop raiser with overpair of 10's on 873 board.

Preflop: Hero raises UTG to $11. Folds to villain in BB who calls.
Flop (Pot $23): 10710. V checks. Hero bets $15. V calls.
Turn (Pot $53): 2. V checks. Hero?

This is a good board for AA. You have the Ad so you block some flushes. I would expect he's c/c trying to hit his draw. You DEFINITELY want to raise here. You don't want to give him a free chance to hit his flush. If he c/r you...I'd fold.


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Raise what? Villain checked.

These sentences seem to contradict each other?

I think he meant to bet... That's what I would do.. Bet 40-45? and fold to a raise?

maybe he thinks he's bluffing a lot if he's been doing this a few times earlier?

I think a check is good. Cause what kinda hand is gonna check call us now that we beat? Also, don't want to get raised off our flush draw. That would be pretty disastrous.

Check back because what do we expect to get action from on a paired flush board? Maybe some worse hands but I can think of a lot of better ones. Also we close the action and allow ourselves to draw to the nut flush for free . I'm looking to play a small pot here. We have big SDV and a vil with a tendency to inflate pots. Maybe on a diff board I would bet to induce a c/r from this opponent.

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Check back is obvious. Behold the power of position.

Check back with Ad

unquestionable check. 89 is the only draw you can shut down, and you cant value bet anything, i think even KK would consider a turn fold.

I partly messed up the flop. Only minor error though. Flop should be 10d,8d,10s.

Anyways. I did end up checking and river was a black 6. V now bets $40. Hero?

We play in alternate universes if an $11 UTG raise gets us HU in position.

If the result is expected, it's a good one. HU, in position, with initiative, and a fairly biggish SPR of ~12. Against most opponents, this leaves us some room for 3 streets of small bet/folding. Or, against more aggro / bluff opponents, we could setup 2 streets with a larger flop bet / check turn (or vice versa) to setup value on the river (all the while not playing for stacks). This guy has overplayed an overpair (check/raising a slight overpair on the flop to the preflop raiser is overplayed, imo) so we might have to be careful about bet/folding against him, so in general I'd go for 2 streets against him.

I'd probably bet a little bit more on the flop.

Easy check back for me on the turn. He most likely called the flop with something, and if that something was a T or a flush draw, he's ahead. We don't want him to check/raise us off our backdoor nut flush draw. If he's got any other hand that called the flop, it's most likely a pocket pair that is drawing to 1 out and unlikely to call a bet (but he might accidentally raise us off our hand). ETA: Missed that he could be on OESD, but whatever, he's drawing to 6 outs; shouldn't be too concerned with a hand like J9/97.

I'd evaluate the river card/action and make a decision then whether I'm calling a bet / value betting myself. If a blank comes and he checks, it might be worth checking the hand down against a potentially aggressive player to make sure he doesn't blow us off our pot.

ETA: River is difficult. Now 97 even got there. Our hand looks exactly like what it is (an overpair that is scared of the flush on the turn). Is Villain expecting us to fold an overpair? Most people can't fold. The problem is whether there is any thin value hands that we beat. Is he flatting QQ preflop to bet the river with it (targetting JJ/99)? You'd think KK+ might lean towards a raise preflop. I'd lean towards a fold, but I'm guessing it's close.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I don't think we are ever good here. Folding is the standard play but shoving with the NFD blocker is much sexier. Depends if you think V can lay down hands like trips, a straight or weak flushes.

Trying to rep the nut flush+ after checking back the turn is not a good idea imo.

AP, getting 2.3:1 it's definitely close... in game I'm mostly calling because I checked back the turn, villain is ~aggressive, we have a blocker, and have one of our strongest hands here (plus I'm a station and it's only 13bb.. ) but also don't fault a tight fold since basically everything got there

Haha, it was 5 or 6 handed at the time.

I agree about questing bet/folding, I’m surprised no one else brought this up.

Well anyways, I decided he was to LAGy of a player and showed he's willing to overplay top pair for me to fold river after checking turn. He had 66...mehh :/

The problem on this board is there ain't exactly a lot of TP type hands that he can think he is value betting thinly. QQ to get value from JJ/etc.? JJ/etc. to get value from A high?

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only way you call river is if you think he is bluffing a good amount, because his entire range that makes sense (Tx, Fd, SD) all got there. Thte fact that he called w 66 on the flop actually means you should feel good about your call, because he could just as easily called flop with 22 which means he has plenty of bluffing hands on river.

Just cuz Villain called flop with an underpair and saw scary turn check thru doesn't mean he's going to bluff river with an UI underpair (especially when he realizes he probably doesn't have to against UI A high).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Easy call, he can value bet worse.

I'm checking back here and calling river or bet (and probably bet-folding?) river smallish for value if checked to again.

Can't see much we get value from that's going to call this turn that we beat, I suspect KdKx 3b us pre-flop as does QdQx most likely, we might be able to get value from very small set of JdJx and J9 maybe?

List of those hands?

Gveryfew,imoG

Agreed. Based on previous hh, villain c/r the flop with JJ+ and Tx. All the flop draws got there by the river.

Pretty brutal he shows up with boat. He has the flush here more often than not.

Good 7x and PPs. From a theory point of view we are easily a the top of our range, we got the Ad as well. No way i fold the river as played without a really strong read.

The 22nd nuts (6 boats + 8 flushes Kx-43 + 1 straight + 6 AT-T8 ... then AA) is the top of our range? We have many better hands we can be calling with here, especially after checking back the turn which polarizes us to a handful of nut flushes and mostly air.

Checking back our SDV hands like AA to bluff catch the river is an exploitative adjustment we can make, but not until we have evidence that that is the proper adjustment. Even a LAG understands the concept of SDV and trying to see a cheap showdown with small PP's. I think if villain had 55 he would probably x/c the river.

After writing out my reply I'm not as down on your thought process as initially, but I'd want some HH evidence that he will basically attack any weakness on the river.