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04-21-2012, 08:40 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 694
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
Interesting experiment - do we count hands that are limp-fold preflop or
In which we fold Pre for any reason (3!, fold to squeeze, etc)?
B/c I'll post my list tomorrow but pretty sure it will be 1-28: l/f, 29-30: ????, profit
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04-21-2012, 08:47 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
Hands that are limp/folded pre-flop, do not count.
If you raise pre-flop, then are 3bet, definitely count those.
Also, do not count any SB you complete or BB unless you CALL A RAISE w your holding.
Definitely interested to see types of hands you play because I respect all your input as a poster...!!!!!
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04-22-2012, 09:55 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 597
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
But, then you'll be like... "****, if I call this I am going to have to hear all the lighting money on fire bull**** on 2+2 even if I somehow win with this crap.. I'm folding."
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LOL this is great. OP, great exercise, I'm going to do it next time I'm playing. However, I'm not sure given how card-dead I'm running if I'll get 30 playable hands in 5 hours.
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04-22-2012, 09:59 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: LLSNL
Posts: 1,426
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
Nvm
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04-22-2012, 10:25 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,289
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
i noticed you raised out the SB/BB with a bunch of limpers ahead of you and i think this is absolutely pointless and i dont get what you are trying to accomplish. especially after you did it the first time with q7 i dont get if youre trying to establish an image or what because you got a buncha callers so now you know the threshold you need to raise to get 1-2 callers when you happen to get a premium in the blinds. but you still did it again with a8 from the bb. SB-UTG+1 should be played very very very tight even if you are super laggy. ive learned this over time that it may be a little more boring at times but it has been proven time and time again that being OOP is not profitable in the long run.
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04-22-2012, 10:31 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Motor City!
Posts: 4,259
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
You'll be sitting there with some random trash on the button or have 8/9 offsuit and want to call a $20 preflop raise because it's already a 4 way pot...
But, then you'll be like... "****, if I call this I am going to have to hear all the lighting money on fire bull**** on 2+2 even if I somehow win with this crap.. I'm folding."
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Actually as simple as it sounds, this is gold!
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04-22-2012, 10:40 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 694
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
00 - AQ limped UTG, limps 5 ways to flop, AKT I b/all-fold ($10)
0 - TT call 6 pre OOP against tight-weak, flop top set, c/c, bet blank turn fold ($15)
1 - J9ss in BB, weak-tight opens 10 UTG, folds to me call, flop 453 one spade, I c/c 15, turn deuce spade I fire 22 V folds JJ ($50)
2 - 75ss vs (? Hi pp) 443hh, c-c, bet 4 turn IP V folds ($12ish)
3 - call 89ss against 12 UTG, fold OTF
4 - doublebarrel gutter 43o on dry uncoord texture (T62r)
sort of lost patience after this, was quite revealing in terms of my own VPIP and potential FPS leaks like hand 1 and preflop mistakes like not 3! TT vs weak tight
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04-22-2012, 10:46 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by scelsi
00 - AQ limped UTG, limps 5 ways to flop, AKT I b/all-fold ($10)
0 - TT call 6 pre OOP against tight-weak, flop top set, c/c, bet blank turn fold ($15)
1 - J9ss in BB, weak-tight opens 10 UTG, folds to me call, flop 453 one spade, I c/c 15, turn deuce spade I fire 22 V folds JJ ($50)
2 - 75ss vs (? Hi pp) 443hh, c-c, bet 4 turn IP V folds ($12ish)
3 - call 89ss against 12 UTG, fold OTF
4 - doublebarrel gutter 43o on dry uncoord texture (T62r)
sort of lost patience after this, was quite revealing in terms of my own VPIP and potential FPS leaks like hand 1 and preflop mistakes like not 3! TT vs weak tight
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Why did you limp A/Q UTG?
If you make it $12/get 2 callers there, that's $24 extra you win in most cases.
Nice float on hand 1.....
What happened on hand 4? How did you get in the hand with 43o???
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04-22-2012, 10:49 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by kenji08
i noticed you raised out the SB/BB with a bunch of limpers ahead of you and i think this is absolutely pointless and i dont get what you are trying to accomplish. especially after you did it the first time with q7 i dont get if youre trying to establish an image or what because you got a buncha callers so now you know the threshold you need to raise to get 1-2 callers when you happen to get a premium in the blinds. but you still did it again with a8 from the bb. SB-UTG+1 should be played very very very tight even if you are super laggy. ive learned this over time that it may be a little more boring at times but it has been proven time and time again that being OOP is not profitable in the long run.
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The reason why I did it in this session was because I had a tight image. I was not calling many pre-flop raises that were over $7 and the table had took notice that the lady and I were the tightest players. So, when I saw a bunch of limpers and I was in the BB or SB I'd just start salivating because I know if I don't raise I'll never win all the limpers money. I would not make such moves if I had a loose/losing image.. I agree that would be completely lighting money on fire.
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04-22-2012, 10:50 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
I want more posters to contribute to this thread.
Would love to see what more of your guys hand selections look like...
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04-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 694
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
Why did you limp A/Q UTG?
If you make it $12/get 2 callers there, that's $24 extra you win in most cases.
Nice float on hand 1.....
What happened on hand 4? How did you get in the hand with 43o???
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Opening AQo UTG is pretty severe RIO, this was about as nice a flop texture as I could expect. I can bloat post, if need, otherwise playing pre raised pots OOP prob -EV long term.
43o was limped to me in BB.
Going to try to get some more data at the end of the week...
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04-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Motor City!
Posts: 4,259
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
I want more posters to contribute to this thread.
Would love to see what more of your guys hand selections look like...
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I am gonna take a notebook with me the next session....loving this thread
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04-22-2012, 11:01 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by playertee
I am gonna take a notebook with me the next session....loving this thread
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It won't be hard to remember hand details of the big hands.....
Most my notes would look like this...
MP 9/9 called $12 raise, 4 way pot, missed and SD (-$12)
UTG A/K I raise $15, 3 callers, CBET and win (+$45)
S.D.= SHUT DOWN
Then when you get home and are entering the data to your computer you can expand on the hands a little bit more...
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04-22-2012, 11:06 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Motor City!
Posts: 4,259
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
Wouldnt the young kid with a pen and a notebook image be really really nitty?
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04-22-2012, 11:12 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,571
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Re: Play a 35 hand session and post results....
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Originally Posted by playertee
Wouldnt the young kid with a pen and a notebook image be really really nitty?
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I was using my cellphone notepad feature... it looked like i was texting...
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