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Overpair and top top in multiway pots. Two hands. Overpair and top top in multiway pots. Two hands.

08-12-2017 , 09:56 PM
1/2 live.

Main villain (190 button) is too aggressive pre and postflop. He is also too loose pre. He is probably a slightly losing player but could be slightly winning very gambly. He knows I play a little on the tight side pre and post.

I've seen this villain 3 bet 77 a couple times including once this session.


Rest of villains are typical loose passive 1/2 players who we can comfortably bet fold 1 pair hands to.

Hero covers.

Hero opens to 8 UTG1 with AdJh. 4 call.

Flop: Js 6d 7d.

Pot:40

Hero bets 25, call, villain raises to 90 with 90 behind. Caller folds out of turn. Hero???

Against most villains I would comfortably fold. Here, I think I would rather not have the Ad since it eliminates a lot of the hands he would bluff multiway. It should also be noted that villain will almost always squeeze JJ and usually squeeze 77 so I would assume a good amount 66 also so I wouldn't give him more than half the combos of sets.

Hand 2.

Hero opens AhAd to 8 in a different game. 4 call.

Flop: 6-4-2 all hearts. Hero checks, woman bets 30 hero calls.

Turn offsuit jack. Woman jams for like 80. Hero??? She seems pretty tight postflop so this definitely isn't something like the named king of hearts. If I give her a range of suited one gappers of hearts 5-7+, Q9s+ Axs sets, and QQ I have enough equity to call. If we take out half the combos of QQ I don't unless we add in some combo draws, pair plus draw or hands like TT.
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08-12-2017 , 10:44 PM
Hand 1- I would call the raise and jam any nondiamond river. I think we are ahead of his range here pretty often, but I would prefer not to get all my chips in on the flop when villain could easily hold a pair plus flush draw. I would prefer to jam a nondiamond turn when we have a much stronger chance of winning the hand and still expecting him to call.

Hand 2- I would fold the turn.
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08-12-2017 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Rick
Hand 1- I would call the raise and jam any nondiamond river. I think we are ahead of his range here pretty often, but I would prefer not to get all my chips in on the flop when villain could easily hold a pair plus flush draw. I would prefer to jam a nondiamond turn when we have a much stronger chance of winning the hand and still expecting him to call.

Hand 2- I would fold the turn.
I think your analysis of H1 is reasonable. I opted to raise given the SPR and that if I check turn on a brick, he can just check it back if he missss and allow him to play perfectly against me. I didn't give much consideration to calling and then leading turn, maybe I should have I have to think about it since it's a weird line.
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08-14-2017 , 10:48 PM
Results: Not good

H1 hero got it in against 67o and lost

H2 hero calls and loses to 97hh for a flopped flush.
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08-15-2017 , 03:23 AM
H1: Problem with "jam any nondiamond turn" is what are you doing when a diamond does come? Check folding TP + NFD vs an overaggressive player, getting close to direct odds to draw to the NFD? I'm OK with flatting flop but I don't think doing that vs jamming matters.

H2: Folding turn I guess, it's sort of close but the woman's big bet OTF is suggestive of a strong and/or fragile hand.
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08-15-2017 , 07:34 AM
I would say raise larger pf. If you are going to open AJo utg, You don't want to get called in 4 spots. Same with A A. If 8 is your standard open, consider changing it to 12...

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08-15-2017 , 11:52 AM
In both hands, I'd raise pre larger. I usually start around 12 and go up from there with more limpers and as people get used to my "ridiculous" raises. Game dependent though. If everyone snap folds all but premiums, I guess you can't raise that much.

I got to jamming both OTF.

In H1, if we cram it in, we're risking 155 to win 245 and we have a lot of equity against an aggro player. If we call, pot is 220 with 90 behind. Not going to love folding if he sticks it in on the turn, whether turn is a diamond or not. Not going to love offering him a free card by checking the turn. If we're calling here and betting the turn, I'd rather jam it here.

H2, there will be 80 behind a pot of 92 if we call. We have good equity against her range, assuming it's JJ+. Even if it's only JxJh+, we're still in OK shape. OOP, I don't think we're going to be in a better position to extract money after the flop, so I stick it in now.
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08-16-2017 , 06:29 AM
live can be ridiculous sometimes, and actually thats the norm, if you want to play pots with less people involved you have to raise more pre, i would suggest doing this only with premium premium hands (QQ/KK/AA maybe AK) tho
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