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Optimal line with kings with middling-straighty flops - 1/2 nl Optimal line with kings with middling-straighty flops - 1/2 nl

07-08-2017 , 02:26 PM
I keep running into weird spots with kings on semi awkward board textures.
1st one - Villain has this tendency to overbet shove and has shown to have the nuts sometimes (king high flush about 90 minutes prior to hand) and overvalued top pairs and stuff other times (donk jammed riv with KQo on 22KJ3 with the 3rd diamond coming on river after I c/r turn. His overbet shove was about 3x pot or $270 into about $90 and I folded a hand that beat KQ on this board- about 45 minutes prior to hand)
OTTH
limp, V limp, folds to hero ($250) in CO with KK makes it $20, both limpers call.
Flop ($63) 67T
1st Limper checks, villain shoves $230 effective on flop, hero??? I know the hero call can be risky but villain has shown up with hands in spots like these that i can beat and is unlikely to play the club draw like this.

Next hand, First villain is an older tight guy and second villain is donkey station who calls down with 2nd pair no kicker and his stack has been fluctuating hundreds of dollars by the hour. Stacks about 250 effective.
Straddle on to $4 and both villains limp EP for 4, Hero in mid position with KK goes $30. Both limpers call.
Flop ($97) 678
Both villains check to hero who bets $80, my hope is to get value from like 99, TT, 89, any kind of straight draws or pairs + straight draws and all flush draws. I also bet because I don't hold the K so many turn cards are very bad for me. I plan to shove all safe turns as I'll have only 150 behind and the pot will have minimum ~$260 What I did not expect was both players to call the flop bet. I think the older tighter guy likely has 99, TT, JJ, QQ here as he probably raises sets, the station has a wider range of probably all pairs + straight draws, flush draws, etc,
Turn ($337) 8
V1 checks, V2 station bets 70??????, Hero?????? DA fuq my plan was initially to jam turn vs 1 opponent if its relatively safe and this turn is relatively okay as it makes it less likely for sets or two pairs on flop and i now counterfeit 67 but the lead has me very confused. Also I have ~150 left into almost $340 and I definitely can't just call the 70$ and leave 80 behind into the river. Obvious jam or fold. the lead just has me so baffled as it seems strong... what to do....?
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07-08-2017 , 07:35 PM
Hand 1: Fold. Villain's over shove is so huge you have to be right almost all the time before calling is right. Strange play but it's too easy for villain to have a combo draw or made hand.

Hand 2: Quietly fold without showing hand. I would probably call on principle if it was just V2 but with V1 in the hand it's just too likely you are beat by one of them.
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