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Opening ranges in 10-max live game Opening ranges in 10-max live game

03-31-2016 , 10:24 AM
Opps are fishy, calling open raises really wide( suited crap,Ace rags etc..), 3betting only strong hands. Effective stacks 60 bb. How I see opening ranges:
Utg- UTG +2: AJo+, KQo+, QJs+,77 +, A10s+. Limping lower pairs.
MP1: adding KJo
MP2: adding QJo, 22-66, 89s+, Suited Aces
MP3:adding 56s+, A10o, J7s+
CO: adding J10o, Q10o, K10o, K2s+, Q5s+, A9o
BU: all suited hands, all aces, K6o+, Q7o+, 56o+.
Please give me your opinions.
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03-31-2016 , 10:34 AM
seems standard. i tend to open all suited aces ep, also j10s, k10s, q10s as i feel i play post flop much better than my opponenets. probably still wrong though.

i'm curious how your ranges change in LP with more limpers before you.
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03-31-2016 , 10:35 AM
At 60bb eff with villains calling wide, you are helping them to play correctly by opening wide. At short stacks, cards>>skill.
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03-31-2016 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SunChips
At 60bb eff with villains calling wide, you are helping them to play correctly by opening wide. At short stacks, cards>>skill.
this advice is about the single most important thing even otherwise competent players still don't get @ LLSNL
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03-31-2016 , 11:03 AM
These ranges are significantly wider than I would open 60 BBs effective at a standard loose passive table.

UTG I'm not raising hands worse than AJs, KQs or TT. If pots are frequently being limped around I'll limp weaker suited broadway, suited connectors and suited aces, but these are to limp-fold, not limp call unless I face a small raise out of the blinds. Limping all the pocket pairs worse than TT.

In MP2, I'm again taking a lot of your weaker raising hands and limping them if I expect to see a limped pot a lot, stuff like 22-88, suited connectors worse than QJ, and A-rag suited.

MP3/HJ is way too wide. Stuff like J7s or J8s really is a fold in almost all positions except maybe the BTN. I would start raising mediocre aces, like A7 or A8 from the HJ. Stacks are short so if I flop an ace I can go with it. If stacks are deeper, I fold those hands since I don't want to get a lot of money in the pot when I'm outkicked.

CO again to wide. Kxs and Qxs are pretty trashy hands. I may limp them but really they are a fold.

Btn is also pretty wide, though if people are folding their blinds a lot I don't hate it.
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03-31-2016 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by syde7
MP3:adding 56s+, A10o, J7s+
Sometimes I think this forum is a level. Possibly you meant J9.

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BU: all suited hands, all aces, K6o+, Q7o+, 56o+.
Maybe you meant J9 there as well? You have enough trash with "all suited hands."

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Originally Posted by syde7
Utg- UTG +2: AJo+, KQo+, QJs+,77 +, A10s+. Limping lower pairs.
Why? You want to play dominated hands OOP?

Last edited by BadlyBeaten; 03-31-2016 at 11:44 AM.
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03-31-2016 , 11:41 AM
that's way too wide
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03-31-2016 , 11:59 AM
At 60bb effective I would be a bit tighter.
Probably chop off the BTN open w the exception of Ax, and then move everything back one position. I. E. Co now BTN, mp3 now Co. Also dumping most low suited connectors. Not far enough ahead of ranges, and not enough fold equity to make up for it.

Utg, AQo+, 88+, limping or folding 77- and Axss depending on table aggression.
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03-31-2016 , 12:11 PM
oh woops didn't see 60bb eff part. yeah definitely too wide
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03-31-2016 , 12:23 PM
Thanks everyone! Now I also think it is too wide.
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03-31-2016 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SunChips
At 60bb eff with villains calling wide, you are helping them to play correctly by opening wide. At short stacks, cards>>skill.
+1. Ranges OP posted look good for a deeper game where you are at least 100 BBs deep with most players and 200+ BBs deep with some fishier players. At 60 BBs you mostly want to be playing hands that can make dominating TPs.
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03-31-2016 , 04:52 PM
Too wide IMO.

60 bigs eff I'd also skew my range more for high card value dropping the weaker suited hands and even some small pairs in the early positions. TPTK/TPGK is going to be more profitable at this stack depth than hands that flop equity but need more cards to realize it.
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04-01-2016 , 03:22 AM
drop the suited junk (J7s from MP? cmon) and offsuit low connectors and raise 22+ instead. Button range is fine and so is CO if you can tell the BTN is going to fold behind you. But only play these hands if the blinds are particularly passive.

Also just noticed you said 60bb stacks? This range is marginal but playable if you have an edge postflop, but prefer for people to have 100bb minimum to play like this.
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