Lots of great results itt, congrats! I started playing again in May of 2016 and the results were not exactly what I was hoping for after a good start, but reasonable.

300 hours (all at 1/2)
Profit = $3750
$12.5 profit / hr
55% winning sessions

After 86 hours, I got up to $4730 ($55/hr), followed by a painful 195 hour downswing to $2250, with a nice $1500 heater to finish off the year at $3750. Good luck in 2017!

Ha, I always thought you were struggling with the thought that some crushers have taken it to the next level against casino regs who can manage to fold TP and thus went super aggro. It's a style I've struggle considered (especially with my nit image), but I doubt my conservative nature will let me get there.

FWIW, I'm also super passive in EP. In fact, in loose games with 100bb+ stacks I actually have a 0% raising range in EP. And my default in anything other than very short stack games is to mostly limp suited broadway (even the strong end of those) and even sometimes even hands as strong as JJ due to they play fine multiway in high SPR pots (if we're nutmining). Course, postflop we have to play fairly nitty multiway, which means we often end up folding the best hand on the flop; I probably fold the best hand on the flop more than anyone, but that's just part of the tradeoff with this style.

Ditto for checking back TP often, although this is mostly due to my tight image often better suited to setting up bluff catchers against aggro opponents / pot control if I don't want to get into commitment problems.

But obviously, it depends.

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GG believe me I know. I swear to God I thought of you when defining his play to myself. Haha

Lol!

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The guy that might be the best player in my room plays a similar style. Very passive pre. Seems to check back a lot of flops and then will raise the turn pretty often. I dont understand what hes doing half the time but he always has a monster stack and he very rarely loses a big pot. He just seems to generally know if hes ahead or not and is able to make thin raises / big folds with bigtime accuracy

^^ describes villain. It's like he marks the cards. I have been tracking his wr when we play together (creep much?) He's over $100/hr.

Could easily just be sample size.

I've got a guy in my room who has recently been creeping me. He sees that I *always* cash out money at the end of a session; course, that doesn't mean I'm up due to the fact I always keep my stack topped off to 100bb (so I could be stuck a bunch). And then it just takes a few big sessions where he sees me sitting with a green stack in a red stack game where I'm always the guy sitting with a green stack, when in reality that only happened like ~10% of the time this year. And he doesn't necessarily know what I did on the table I just came from (where I could easily be down a couple of BIs).

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I've seen this type of villain before too. Limping/calling into a lot of pots and somehow managing to get paid enough to build a huge stack while dodging bullets.

I suspect that these guys are just *very* good at profiling their opponents, partially through live tells, and partially through betting patterns and hand/situation reading. They play enough hands to back into some monsters in weird spots, which tends to stick in many villains heads and mess with their game as this guy "always has it", which buys the passive player free streets and FE against passive V's, while gaining max value from aggrotards when he hits a hand.

I was thinking that maybe these crushers that play this way are solid, but what sets them apart is that they've studied live tells / physiological responses to different situations. Just a guess

If people want to come in here and claim they made $XX/hour when they didn't you really think you saying 'no no, that's bullshyt' is going to all of a sudden make them repost and admit they lied?

And do you think that if they did make it, you are encouraging them to post more and offer their advice?
If someone says they crush, congratulate them (or just stfu and leave them alone) and move along.
Ask for their advice and if it's good, copy it, if it isn't then ignore it/them.

I get very few hours in due to having a job and living a long way from the casino, so this is over a 2 year period:

2/3 NLHE
53 sessions
Win rate 53%
347.69 hours (6.56 hours average session length)
$7,206 won
$20.73 per hour (6.91 bb per hour)
STDev bb/hr = 59.65
95% confidence win rate range = $1.62 to $40.01

2015 I averaged $2.70 per hour and 2016 it was $28.31 per hour. I feel I ran badly in 2015 and then clocked up rungood in 2016. Of course that can be put in perspective against this tiny sample size and the "true" win rate range I posted above. My feeling is overall I've been running slightly favourably but $20 an hour is sustainable because I'm better live than when I started. I could be wrong of course.

I play a pretty basic TAG/nitty game and I think anyone who is prepared to work on a decent preflop strategy and is patient enough to fold until they get a hand and not tilt should be able to grind out this kind of rate in a soft live game. Luckily 90% of regs refuse to acquire even this modest skill set so we should all consider ourselves lucky IMO.

In addition to what IRTM posted, I'll just add that the right answer if you think someone is breaking posting norms ITT is to hit the report button, not to respond in the thread.

I suspect it is more of exploiting the betting tendencies of many LLSNL players. HOC went over this strategy over 10 years ago. See lots of cheap flops. When you hit, exploit people who can't fold a potential winning hand.

The counter-strategy is to raise bigger and more in position. Avoid betting into -EV situations against the villain's calling range.

Finally, complaining about the bad strat in this forum is a leak. If you feel it should be better, you should be posting the better strat. If you don't want to help people, the last thing you should be doing is telling others it is bad. You would keep your mouth shut so others follow it.

I'll add that just because you think the advice is bad and you feel like you should ignore it, doesnt make it so. If they are really crushing the games and you arent, theres a very good chance that their seemingly controversial or contrarian advice is whats making them crush and you might want to try something new before disregarding it off the cuff.

My friend wants to play live 1/2 nl.

He has an extra $500 a week from his 50 hr a week job with 2 days off a week.

He wants to play at least these two days a week, track his progress.

Just tell him to bring like min $400 on his days off, and keep adding the surplus every week or keep reloading every week

or tell him save up like 3k first then start hitting it up?

Wait a week and bring 4 bi IMO.

To start just bring $400 and track as he builds his roll up through his job.

wtf, how you gonna name yourself Dream Crusher?

Yeah, no need to save up if he can replenish.

Don't like this advice. To someone asking how much to start with.

4 BI is alot to lose in 1 session. If he has small roll. With expendable income. 2 or 3 max buy-in, while you get your feet wet is plenty.

4 BI, is fine for proven winner....but even then, playing "A" game down 3 buyins, is rare talent

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Played 1100hrs and made $32k

Made $25k the first quarter ,then went on a long break even stretch. I took about three months off as well

Went on a 51 session heater for 2016. (Only really got to play once a week).

36/51 (70.5 % cash rate). +9BB/hr . Only played NL Holdem between 2/5 and 10/10.

For 2017 I want to:
1.) Try and play atleast 2 sessions a week.
2.) Try and play/improve PLO (a lot of the soft spots are moving over to play PLO)
3.) Clean up my post flop play. Made a bunch of bad decisions that unnecessarily put me in difficult spots... which ended up having me lose more $ / win less $.
4.) Seat and table change more. It's something I never really do. It's a mix of being lazy and not playing super long sessions. But it's obviously something that's important.
5.) Study more mixed limit games. Not sure if most of your rooms have regular higher limit mixed games (75/150 - 200/400). But they generally appear to be the best game in the house.
6.) Continue to pay time and tip out of pocket and not stack (even though most people didn't like the idea).
7.) CONTINUE TO RUN GOOD!

Playing 2bi 2nd nut lo. You can't even top off without being scared money.

3bi with top off chips allows you to rip it in when you should.

It's not about losing 4 bi. It's about being able to lose 1 or 2 and still play correctly.

Nut low for most. I would agree

Playing second half session with short stack.

Isn't end of world for someone figuring out, where they fit in.

Keep in mind. If he is a winner. The bankroll will come on it's own. Doesn't need 4BI to figure it out.

4BI allows you to reach your max WR.

That is not something newer players need to worry about. They need to figure out if they can see and find edges.

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My 2016 as a 9-5er and part time player.

$12,421 - $20.36/hr (610 hours, 128 bb SDV, 98% 1/3, rest is 1/2 and one 2/5 session)
$12,900 - Bink a bad beat promotion (easy game)
-$1,895 - I suck at tournaments

Total: $23,417

I finally moved to Vegas a month ago, something I've wanted to do for a long time. Still have a 9-5er though, no desire to try it full time. Had a really solid first month here and pretty much love it so far.

Goals for 2017:

800 hours cash
Continue studying and try to reach 2/5 full time
$20k profit
Only brick one tourney per month
Bink another bad beat