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10-29-2011, 12:35 AM
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#991
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banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montréal, Canada
Posts: 168
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
How many buy ins do you guys think you need to play at 5/5 plo live? im thinking about 30 buy ins of 500$ so 15k. gonna be living off this roll.
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10-29-2011, 01:02 AM
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#992
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,995
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by bucheron
How many buy ins do you guys think you need to play at 5/5 plo live? im thinking about 30 buy ins of 500$ so 15k. gonna be living off this roll.
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LOL, $500 per buyin at 5/5?
You're gonna run out of chips in one orbit.
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10-29-2011, 01:29 PM
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#993
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Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,531
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by bucheron
How many buy ins do you guys think you need to play at 5/5 plo live? im thinking about 30 buy ins of 500$ so 15k. gonna be living off this roll.
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Better off finding a 1/3 PLO game and living off that if you must.. thats a comfortable roll if you have side income, not off sole source....
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10-29-2011, 02:38 PM
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#994
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,599
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by bucheron
How many buy ins do you guys think you need to play at 5/5 plo live? im thinking about 30 buy ins of 500$ so 15k. gonna be living off this roll.
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not nearly enough for PLO. It probally is barely enough for holdem.
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10-29-2011, 03:49 PM
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#995
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: LV, UT, $$
Posts: 3,073
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
best poker apps for iphones? tyia.
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10-30-2011, 12:17 AM
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#996
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 3betting your face off
Posts: 4,110
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
Poker journal ainec
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11-04-2011, 02:56 AM
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#997
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Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,531
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
Hey guys; I had a pretty good October, logging in 74 hours and winning 1700 for a 21/hour winrate. Things are coming together for me as my bankroll is growing... about 2.5k more and I can start shot taking 2/5, and about 1k more to take a comfortable shot at the 1/3 game.
I have been grinding as poker being my sole source of income since July, and so far so good. I am trying to get a part time $12/hour job on the side so I can have side income on top of poker so I can make the jump to 2/5 rather easy. I am loving poker right now, and for the year I am up almost 9500 now playing stricty 1/2 at a $17/hour clip. Thanks for all the feedback on my threads; I feel 2plustwo has helped my game alot.
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11-04-2011, 03:18 AM
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#998
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: soul reading noobs since 2005
Posts: 28,994
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
Hey guys; I had a pretty good October, logging in 74 hours and winning 1700 for a 21/hour winrate. Things are coming together for me as my bankroll is growing... about 2.5k more and I can start shot taking 2/5, and about 1k more to take a comfortable shot at the 1/3 game.
I have been grinding as poker being my sole source of income since July, and so far so good. I am trying to get a part time $12/hour job on the side so I can have side income on top of poker so I can make the jump to 2/5 rather easy. I am loving poker right now, and for the year I am up almost 9500 now playing stricty 1/2 at a $17/hour clip. Thanks for all the feedback on my threads; I feel 2plustwo has helped my game alot.
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cool I've been grinding full time for only about 4 months. Bankroll is pretty lol atm, full tilt plzzzz pay out no whammies!
I also really love playing right now. I took a couple years off from poker after getting bored of it, but live poker rekindled a love for the game in me. If online came back today I still think I'd try to play live a lot.
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11-15-2011, 04:55 AM
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#999
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,971
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
I have played a little over 1k hrs in cardrooms and casinos since I turned 21 in January 2010. I have kept delegent records first on binder paper, the in a spread sheet on my laptop, then in the Poker Session Logger app for my android phone.
My overall winrate has been $9/hr, 1022 hrs played. I have mostly played 1/2 nl, some 1/3 nl and 2/4 nl as well.
I have a blog in the PG&C forum documenting my play since this May. I have been only lurking LLSNL but I think I should probably start commenting on some hands in here and post some occasional tough spots I find myself in.
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11-15-2011, 05:45 AM
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#1000
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 754
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
Hey guys; I had a pretty good October, logging in 74 hours and winning 1700 for a 21/hour winrate. Things are coming together for me as my bankroll is growing... about 2.5k more and I can start shot taking 2/5, and about 1k more to take a comfortable shot at the 1/3 game.
I have been grinding as poker being my sole source of income since July, and so far so good. I am trying to get a part time $12/hour job on the side so I can have side income on top of poker so I can make the jump to 2/5 rather easy. I am loving poker right now, and for the year I am up almost 9500 now playing stricty 1/2 at a $17/hour clip. Thanks for all the feedback on my threads; I feel 2plustwo has helped my game alot.
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What's your current 1/2 bankroll and what is your bankroll gonna be when you start playing 2/5?
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11-15-2011, 12:39 PM
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#1001
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Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,531
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by mp2012
What's your current 1/2 bankroll and what is your bankroll gonna be when you start playing 2/5?
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Current 1/2 bankroll is 6k (had to dump 700 off for a payment, meh..), if i get another job soon I would be willing to take a 2/5 shot at 8-9k. My buddy who plays 5/10 said he will stake me soon nonetheless, so I am stoked about that.
With no other income, 2/5 shot will have to wait till 12k+ for sure.
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11-15-2011, 12:47 PM
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#1002
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,916
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
I've discovered I have to go through stretches of playing live and stretches of playing online rather than weaving them intermittently. The variance of 8-15 tabling MTT's vs. playing 1 table of live $1/2 is just too much of a gap. If I lose $3k in a month online, I just can't concentrate on live throughout that downswing... but I think I might be being a bankroll nit since I have a $10K live roll and am still playing $1/2. Not comfortable moving up yet though I could afford it.
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11-15-2011, 01:14 PM
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#1003
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Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,531
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
^^^ since you can afford it, I challenege you to break out of your shell and hit up a 1 BI shot at 2/5 before year's end.
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11-15-2011, 01:23 PM
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#1004
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,916
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
The way the game plays ($500-1500 bi, lots of straddling, deep stacks) I'd probably only bother if I were to buy in $1k, though I think il take you up on that challenge, maybe make a trip report post if there's any interesting pots.
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11-15-2011, 03:55 PM
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#1005
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 512
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
cool I've been grinding full time for only about 4 months. Bankroll is pretty lol atm, full tilt plzzzz pay out no whammies!
I also really love playing right now. I took a couple years off from poker after getting bored of it, but live poker rekindled a love for the game in me. If online came back today I still think I'd try to play live a lot.
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This is my story too. I used to grind 10-20/20-40 lhe for five years out west. Could never stand nl. wtf 15 hands an hour. people hollywooding for a minute when everyone knows they are going to fold. My variance was also high and my winrate terrible at 2-5, so I moved east and quit the grind, thinking a cubical might be a better place to find meaning (lol).
After loosing my job this summer and a new casino opening up in my neighborhood last year, I decided to try to learn it. Taking $200 from my unemployment check (another lol), I have been able to make $4500 in the last 85 hours of play ($53.00). Of course, this rate wont last, but it is nice to get a shot in the arm on the front end.
I am making tons of mistakes but am learning that in the meantime, peddling nuts, playing tilted players who want to stack off with second pair, and value betting old men who like to call with a pair is a recipe for profits while I learn and build a bankroll. Am starting to be able to play poker again and it is fun to have some control over the aggression at some tables.
I am running well, but am finding that these games have so much less variance than lhe. 15 winning sessions to 5 losers! I have never ran this good in lhe, more like 2:1. And my losses are way smaller than my wins on average.
losing sessions average 4 hours and have averaged -$255
winning sessions average 4.6 hours and I've averaged winning $412
The forum is the best I've seen since the mid stakes 6 max lhe 7 years ago when I had another name.
Is there a thread where there is more general discussion, like how QJo looses me money?
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