$10 rake + $5 an hour for a 1/2 game? What the hell. How do you beat this game

Mike McDermott was like the model for bad BR management, johnnyBuzz has the funds to shot take.

I was up $6k lifetime at 1-2 when I decided to shot take 2-5. Was pretty nervous. Charles Town was mega soft then and I ran good, so it worked out. No interest in trying 5-10 anytime soon, as I'm not psychologically ready for a downswing at that level, and I think I have tons of room for improvement at 2-5.

Well that was the toughest set of games I've ever played in.

4 table must move. Ran like ****, mostly folding. Only two big pairs (KK, QQ) got folded around preflop (probably the only two hands that didn't see a flop all night). Every 3 hands someone was 3!. I 3! twice with AQo and got 4! both times. Got guttered on the river for a $1500 pot. Got super unlucky for the "time rake" draw and had to pay the entire table's rake 3/6 times ($150ish). And through it all I ended up only -$150 for the night over a 5.5 hour session.

Glad I got the experience but I won't be playing 10/10 again anytime soon since the 2/5 games are much much juicier on Tuesdays.

I'm in a similar spot johnny.

Our 5/10 game runs 1-2 times a week, during the only times that the 2/5 game runs as well. For whatever reason I was always opting towards 5/10 but I realized the 2/5 game is much softer and I can play much more comfortably in that game. No reason for me to play regularly in a bigger game until I can drop 3 buy ins and not think twice about it.

Wtf is time rake?

one note about dropping by-ins and not think twice about it...for me..it literally has nothing to do with the money...I mean..yes losing 1500-2000 would SUCK...but I feel sick ANYTIME and ANY amount if I am dropping 2-3 buyins...must be my competetive nature...for example...I am not a big internet poker player at ALL....and I bought in 3 times for 25$ (I am a live 2/5 reg) and dropped all three playing .25/.50nl . I felt sick...and pissed.

so the money for me has little to do with it.....its the idea of losing that makes me sick ...does that make any sense? I am thinking it cant be a good thing lol

In bigger games the game is raked per half hour rather than as a percentage of each pot.

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Weird as ****! For some reason, my browser is refusing to show me page 127 of this thread. I'll delete this and the test above if/when I can ever get to these posts.

Best mussels I've ever had were in philly

Time rake- each player prepays the rake for the dealers down

A lot of times the player agree to gamble for it.

One way is each player is designated a card based on their seat a-9

The first card on the first flop pays time for everyone.

It's faster and get one to two more hands per down.

The other, more complicated way is for the first player to win a pit greater than X to pay the time for everyone.

We used to do 500 but it became anglely and harder to track since it doesn't happen as quickly as the first hand in most cases.

Timed rake is $6 per player per dealer (30 minutes) and they don't rake the pot. For whatever reason, everyone wanted to "draw" for it, meaning if the first card on the flop was a 2, seat 2 would pay that down, if a 7, seat 7 would pay.

Well since I run so unbelievably good, my "number" got picked 3 of the 6 times the table agreed to it, meaning I paid $162 in rake vs. the $18 I would have paid as an even table share. Needless to say, I am not a fan of that rake structure.

It saves time and you get more hands per hour (usually)

Fyp. Lol at how much of a cluster **** time gimmicks are.

I have yet to see a dealer spend 4 minutes collecting everyone's 6 bucks. I have seen dozens of time games occupy the players trying to resolve it.

It really doesn't save any time if you just keep a nominal amount of small denomination chips like anyone with common sense would do.

I didn't wanna be "that (new) guy" that was already getting bullied enough as is so I just went along with it.

Completely right play to go along with it fwiw.

Everyone feels so proud of their gimmick time games that they think are novel.. they never step back and look at it objectively and realize "jeez this is ****ing stupid"

/rant

Philly has probably the best options for poker in the NE if you are living in/around a major city. Parx and Sugarhouse are both filled with people who spew money liberally. Borgata is a short easy drive and has the best tourney series on the East coast, MDL isn't even that far. There are a few others too but I don't frequent them much so idk much about them. As for the other major cities, there is way less traffic than NYC/DC and the cost of living is much lower, living in/near Boston means dealing with M*******s day in and day out, and if you think Philly area is a bad place to live - go to Baltimore, you'll realize really quick that Philly isn't that bad

All that being said, I've been trying to convince my wife to move to Colorado for years, she won't budge...

Come to Maryland

Some dealers are fantastic, others can't figure out number of players X 7 and how to make change

Been there.. watched the endless debates about "seat 5 is out, someone buy seat 5"... watched nervous new players first impression of a game be someone jolting them with explanations of a time flop... watched the time flop get forgotten at least a couple of times and then a debate about who owes / more bad experiences for rec players.

Pro tip - handle getting the time ready for the dealer. Keep a stack of white. Cover your end of the table, have another experienced/pro handle the other end. We are $6 time and now the entire player pool is conditioned to throw their extra white out to help whoever has only red. The good will gets noticed and favors get returned.

It's completely ev neutral... and you can always buy out (there is always someone who will take your action if you asked)

In my game, if we do draw seats for time rake, one reg will always take on the responsibility of paying the time for the whole table (he always gets exact change and have it ready when the new dealer sits down), then collect it from the seat that was actually drawn some time later without holding up the game. It takes <10 secs. When it's not time raked, regs will always make change for each other so everything's ready for the dealer.

...maybe you guys just need to step your game up

I guess when fish is at the table, everyone wants to play more hands.

LOL @ people being surprised about (what I'm assuming is) the Parx 10/10 game. Tuesday night it's soooooo good. The must move tables are usually better than the main game too.

Monk's?

Nice results, especially with that sick rake!

Gcongrats!G

It's this generally true for every must move game?