In 85 hours, which would be 11 long sessions, you've only suffered ONE bad beat for half a buy in? I'd say you're running pretty well at the moment.

It doesnt really matter what your winrate is, as long as you make the correct decsions every hand the "winrate" just affects the variance associated with the game.

Obviously some people make better decisions than others.

I hope you mean the poker room is tough as in the whole room. 1/2 tables are never tough. What poker room you play at?

lol

FWIW the thread I posted this in was moved to here.. I should have probably just linked OP to this thread.

This thread isn't actually linked to from the FAQ - it really needs to be.

Actually, it is. But I'll make it clearer.

Thanks - the last time a winrate thread was created, I went to the FAQ to grab the link, and couldn't find it.

I just started grinding 1/2 seriously last week. Ive played around 25 hours and am averaging around $80/hr hopefully can maintain this long term or increase my win rate a little bit.

Should be no problem, that's about standard.

People post these hourly ranges like $15-$25 at 1/2 as though if youre a winning player your winrate will start at $15/hr. Like that is the entry-level salary or something. Honestly, if youre making $1/hr at 1/2 youre probably doing better than 95%+ of the players in your playerpool.

For those who havent been playing live a lot, do not expect to be automatically making the top end of the hourly ranges posters are suggesting here. Most winning players in these games proabably don't even approach the bottom of these ranges.

Oh, and I refuse to believe its possible to achieve $30+/hr at 1/2 $200-max-buy $4-rake over a significant sample. There may be people who have done it over 10 or 15k hands, but I have to believe they were running way above ev.

Is losing 3.5 buyins at 1-2 terrible? i had a few coolers like i turned the nut flush on 3 fvlush board bet, bet river guy shoved i insta called he showed str8 flush. i also had AA cracked, all in on flop i shoulda folded? This isnt a HH review just a general idea on how i kept losing.

last hand i shoved over a $45 raise from an UTG tighhht player for $220, i had AKcc he had KK and called.

i dont even know if i want to go back there, is stuff like this standard or should i quit?

Losing 3.5 buyins is nothing. The AK hand sounds like a spew against a nit. You will get coolered in NL. If you aren't losing stacks when coolered, you probably aren't maximizing your wins when ahead. Look at the graphs from some of the online guys. It's like the rocky freaking mountains. Just hang in there. If you play solid poker, you're probably a decent winner.

I think it would be helpful to unpack what goes into a win rate understand better the variation. Ie what percentage is just winning with the best hand, and what percentage is huge bluffs what percentage is cbetting and taking down pots.

I'm curious if the 15 dollar an hour win rate is possible displaying straightforward tag game or whether a lot of the winning actually comes from forcing folds.

anyone ever post any live graphs in this thread? that would be neat to see, from a player with 500+ hours at one level