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07-02-2012, 06:43 PM
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#1861
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Pit leak is result of a lot of players' tilt.
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07-02-2012, 08:03 PM
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#1862
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: LV, UT, $$
Posts: 3,075
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
I'm on my iPhone posting this but thanks for replies so far. I hopefully put the horrible blackjack table behind me for good after this break.
What happened was I was staying at the casino for the whole weekend but I got there on thurs night and the cash games died that night. I was wide awake and couldn't sleep so I thought I would play some bj. U preceded to lose 3k that night Ouch I know. In the morning I thought it would be a good idea to drive home (2 hours away) and grab 6k. I lost all that too (including spazzing out hard in cash games. When your betting $200-800 per hand
All in with an open ender for $400 sounds like a good idea :0) and my life was miserable. Btw all my poker records are honest to the minute since ive been tracking. Over the course of the next month or so I only had like 1k to my name and basically broke even over my next 115 hours.
After that I decided a break was in order. Just thought I'd share. The reason why I feel like I was breakeven with my last 1k or so was because I was scared money plus running below EV. I also realize that $80 an hour isn't sustainable I was just stating how things were going at the time.
About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.
Last edited by bubonicplay; 07-02-2012 at 08:13 PM.
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07-02-2012, 11:55 PM
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#1863
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Borgata, Trying Parx (ugh)
Posts: 1,755
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.
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Good luck dude. I really hope it works out.
Chasing losses isn't really all bankroll though. It's also mental game stuff.
I forget if you said you have Mental Game of Poker, but I highly recommend it. There's a lot of stuff you can keep working on to improve your mentality so even when you get upset you don't go on crazy tilt and blow a ton of money.
I never played blackjack, but I would start raising like 94s utg and trying to 3b T6s b/c I was like screw it, I'm going to LAG it up. Then I would get owned and it would really suck.
When I read the concept that mistakes are good, and I can never play totally mistake free it blew my mind. But now when I do something stupid I can stop and go back and hopefully learn something. The little "injecting logic" phrases help a ton too.
What I usually say to myself is "When I'm running this bad, this is when I make my money. Lets tighten up and lose as little as possible."
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07-03-2012, 12:34 AM
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#1864
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: LV, UT, $$
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
I haven't read/ bought mental game yet. I have been listening to tommy Angelo and also Bart Hanson like clockwork. Thanks for your advice and I agree with everything you said. I think if/ when I can master the mental side of poker I will have a better win rate which is the thing that persuades me to not work a 9-5 at the moment. I'm only 25 with no degree yet (close) so I need all the motivation I can get during this break. And by the way I am not worried about the loans, I need the money more now than when I start paying them back if that makes sense. And the government can go **** themselves if I never decide to pay them back which I'm just sayin, I would like to pay them back.
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07-06-2012, 11:53 PM
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#1865
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Rosarito
Posts: 28,155
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
How many months of living expenses do you guys like to keep separate from your bankroll?
Assuming we are putting money from our bankroll into that "safety bin" every month.
I hear a lot of people say 6 months, and I know it's a subjective answer, but I'm curious where people get their answer.
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07-07-2012, 02:08 AM
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#1866
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Wearing a purse
Posts: 11,455
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
I'm on my iPhone posting this but thanks for replies so far. I hopefully put the horrible blackjack table behind me for good after this break.
What happened was I was staying at the casino for the whole weekend but I got there on thurs night and the cash games died that night. I was wide awake and couldn't sleep so I thought I would play some bj. U preceded to lose 3k that night Ouch I know. In the morning I thought it would be a good idea to drive home (2 hours away) and grab 6k. I lost all that too (including spazzing out hard in cash games. When your betting $200-800 per hand
All in with an open ender for $400 sounds like a good idea :0) and my life was miserable. Btw all my poker records are honest to the minute since ive been tracking. Over the course of the next month or so I only had like 1k to my name and basically broke even over my next 115 hours.
After that I decided a break was in order. Just thought I'd share. The reason why I feel like I was breakeven with my last 1k or so was because I was scared money plus running below EV. I also realize that $80 an hour isn't sustainable I was just stating how things were going at the time.
About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.
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did you troll me 24/7 in the PG&C threads? glad to see my advice was so wrong and retarded
LOL
if you deal with tilt, nothing wrong with the student loan
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07-08-2012, 06:11 PM
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#1867
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 54
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
My average hourly at 1/2 is pretty steady at 50 dollars. I wasn't planning on moving up to 2/5 until I have a 25k roll, is this too nitty? My style of play does have fairly large swings even in single sessions of multiple BIs (4+/-2).
I've played 2/5 several times before when a friend of mine who is a very good MTT player and 5/10 player has partially staked me for 40%. I've had similar success at 2/5 albeit a smaller sample size.
What size roll do you think I should wait before moving up? 25k? 20k? 15k? 10k?
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07-08-2012, 08:00 PM
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#1868
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,180
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LOL, if you're crushing 1/2 at 25bb/hr, you could move up with 5 BIs and shouldn't have any concern.
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07-08-2012, 08:30 PM
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#1869
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: LV, UT, $$
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
did you troll me 24/7 in the PG&C threads? glad to see my advice was so wrong and retarded
LOL
if you deal with tilt, nothing wrong with the student loan
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Didn't mean to troll I'm just opinionated.
Thanks, I'm getting a 5k loan in August then I will probably get another one for 5k 4 months later when the next semester starts. After that I plan to play 2-5 with any full buyins over 10k. I think it will be a good break. Pretty much 5 months.
I just hope the game hasn't evolved by then, but I do hope online is up and running.
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07-08-2012, 09:26 PM
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#1870
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Wearing a purse
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by sharkopotamus
My average hourly at 1/2 is pretty steady at 50 dollars. I wasn't planning on moving up to 2/5 until I have a 25k roll, is this too nitty? My style of play does have fairly large swings even in single sessions of multiple BIs (4+/-2).
I've played 2/5 several times before when a friend of mine who is a very good MTT player and 5/10 player has partially staked me for 40%. I've had similar success at 2/5 albeit a smaller sample size.
What size roll do you think I should wait before moving up? 25k? 20k? 15k? 10k?
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over how many hours? Id like to think 500 is a good sample, 1k a very good.
I like 15k for 2/5, and 40k for 5/10
glglgl
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07-08-2012, 09:31 PM
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#1871
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
What's the biggest plus month you guys had in 2/5 or 1/2?
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07-08-2012, 09:37 PM
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#1872
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 3betting your face off
Posts: 4,110
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
10k month in 2/5 is my record.
15k is too much for 2/5
I moved up at 6k and didn't look back.
Good discussion in here that motivated me to move up sooner.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...kroll-1160302/
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07-08-2012, 09:42 PM
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#1873
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Wearing a purse
Posts: 11,455
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
please use hours cause a month can be anything
+9840 in 133hrs seems to be my peak
weeeeeee 74/hr. very nice
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07-08-2012, 09:50 PM
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#1874
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 10,052
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
**** my biggest is +5400 for 125hrs. I average between +2500-+3500
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07-08-2012, 10:07 PM
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#1875
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Wearing a purse
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Re: *** Official Winrates, bankrolls, and finances ***
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
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I think this is a terrible idea.
move up to 2/5 when you have 25bi.
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