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Old 07-02-2012, 06:43 PM   #1861
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Pit leak is result of a lot of players' tilt.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:03 PM   #1862
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I'm on my iPhone posting this but thanks for replies so far. I hopefully put the horrible blackjack table behind me for good after this break.

What happened was I was staying at the casino for the whole weekend but I got there on thurs night and the cash games died that night. I was wide awake and couldn't sleep so I thought I would play some bj. U preceded to lose 3k that night Ouch I know. In the morning I thought it would be a good idea to drive home (2 hours away) and grab 6k. I lost all that too (including spazzing out hard in cash games. When your betting $200-800 per hand
All in with an open ender for $400 sounds like a good idea :0) and my life was miserable. Btw all my poker records are honest to the minute since ive been tracking. Over the course of the next month or so I only had like 1k to my name and basically broke even over my next 115 hours.

After that I decided a break was in order. Just thought I'd share. The reason why I feel like I was breakeven with my last 1k or so was because I was scared money plus running below EV. I also realize that $80 an hour isn't sustainable I was just stating how things were going at the time.

About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.

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Old 07-02-2012, 11:55 PM   #1863
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About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.
Good luck dude. I really hope it works out.

Chasing losses isn't really all bankroll though. It's also mental game stuff.

I forget if you said you have Mental Game of Poker, but I highly recommend it. There's a lot of stuff you can keep working on to improve your mentality so even when you get upset you don't go on crazy tilt and blow a ton of money.

I never played blackjack, but I would start raising like 94s utg and trying to 3b T6s b/c I was like screw it, I'm going to LAG it up. Then I would get owned and it would really suck.

When I read the concept that mistakes are good, and I can never play totally mistake free it blew my mind. But now when I do something stupid I can stop and go back and hopefully learn something. The little "injecting logic" phrases help a ton too.

What I usually say to myself is "When I'm running this bad, this is when I make my money. Lets tighten up and lose as little as possible."
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:34 AM   #1864
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I haven't read/ bought mental game yet. I have been listening to tommy Angelo and also Bart Hanson like clockwork. Thanks for your advice and I agree with everything you said. I think if/ when I can master the mental side of poker I will have a better win rate which is the thing that persuades me to not work a 9-5 at the moment. I'm only 25 with no degree yet (close) so I need all the motivation I can get during this break. And by the way I am not worried about the loans, I need the money more now than when I start paying them back if that makes sense. And the government can go **** themselves if I never decide to pay them back which I'm just sayin, I would like to pay them back.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:53 PM   #1865
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How many months of living expenses do you guys like to keep separate from your bankroll?

Assuming we are putting money from our bankroll into that "safety bin" every month.

I hear a lot of people say 6 months, and I know it's a subjective answer, but I'm curious where people get their answer.
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Old 07-07-2012, 02:08 AM   #1866
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I'm on my iPhone posting this but thanks for replies so far. I hopefully put the horrible blackjack table behind me for good after this break.

What happened was I was staying at the casino for the whole weekend but I got there on thurs night and the cash games died that night. I was wide awake and couldn't sleep so I thought I would play some bj. U preceded to lose 3k that night Ouch I know. In the morning I thought it would be a good idea to drive home (2 hours away) and grab 6k. I lost all that too (including spazzing out hard in cash games. When your betting $200-800 per hand
All in with an open ender for $400 sounds like a good idea :0) and my life was miserable. Btw all my poker records are honest to the minute since ive been tracking. Over the course of the next month or so I only had like 1k to my name and basically broke even over my next 115 hours.

After that I decided a break was in order. Just thought I'd share. The reason why I feel like I was breakeven with my last 1k or so was because I was scared money plus running below EV. I also realize that $80 an hour isn't sustainable I was just stating how things were going at the time.

About the student loan, when I get it I'm going to start a goal thread and use it for poker. I feel like 50 buyins will let me forget about chasing losses and hopefully this will be my fresh start to playing disciplined poker that I used to play. Lost post on my iPhone lol. I would love to hear any more words of wisdom from you guys though.
did you troll me 24/7 in the PG&C threads? glad to see my advice was so wrong and retarded

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if you deal with tilt, nothing wrong with the student loan
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:11 PM   #1867
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My average hourly at 1/2 is pretty steady at 50 dollars. I wasn't planning on moving up to 2/5 until I have a 25k roll, is this too nitty? My style of play does have fairly large swings even in single sessions of multiple BIs (4+/-2).

I've played 2/5 several times before when a friend of mine who is a very good MTT player and 5/10 player has partially staked me for 40%. I've had similar success at 2/5 albeit a smaller sample size.

What size roll do you think I should wait before moving up? 25k? 20k? 15k? 10k?
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:00 PM   #1868
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LOL, if you're crushing 1/2 at 25bb/hr, you could move up with 5 BIs and shouldn't have any concern.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:30 PM   #1869
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did you troll me 24/7 in the PG&C threads? glad to see my advice was so wrong and retarded

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if you deal with tilt, nothing wrong with the student loan
Didn't mean to troll I'm just opinionated.

Thanks, I'm getting a 5k loan in August then I will probably get another one for 5k 4 months later when the next semester starts. After that I plan to play 2-5 with any full buyins over 10k. I think it will be a good break. Pretty much 5 months.

I just hope the game hasn't evolved by then, but I do hope online is up and running.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:26 PM   #1870
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My average hourly at 1/2 is pretty steady at 50 dollars. I wasn't planning on moving up to 2/5 until I have a 25k roll, is this too nitty? My style of play does have fairly large swings even in single sessions of multiple BIs (4+/-2).

I've played 2/5 several times before when a friend of mine who is a very good MTT player and 5/10 player has partially staked me for 40%. I've had similar success at 2/5 albeit a smaller sample size.

What size roll do you think I should wait before moving up? 25k? 20k? 15k? 10k?
over how many hours? Id like to think 500 is a good sample, 1k a very good.

I like 15k for 2/5, and 40k for 5/10

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Old 07-08-2012, 09:31 PM   #1871
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What's the biggest plus month you guys had in 2/5 or 1/2?
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:37 PM   #1872
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10k month in 2/5 is my record.

15k is too much for 2/5

I moved up at 6k and didn't look back.

Good discussion in here that motivated me to move up sooner.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...kroll-1160302/
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:42 PM   #1873
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please use hours cause a month can be anything


+9840 in 133hrs seems to be my peak

weeeeeee 74/hr. very nice
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:50 PM   #1874
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**** my biggest is +5400 for 125hrs. I average between +2500-+3500
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10k month in 2/5 is my record.

15k is too much for 2/5

I moved up at 6k and didn't look back.

Good discussion in here that motivated me to move up sooner.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...kroll-1160302/
I think this is a terrible idea.

move up to 2/5 when you have 25bi.
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