lol

no

but yes.

jammed97s on the 8 6 3r flop multiway. Got called twice, turned out I was up against 83s and 86o.

I'm sure they both felt that it was a cooler.

I ate a meal at the casino diner after finishing my session.

As I'm waiting in the line to pay for my food, I notice an older lady grab about 50 free mints and stuff them into her purse. I mean they're free, but 50? Really?

In contention for "stingiest thing I've ever seen."

RE: Religion

I honestly dont care what people think. Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Flying Spaghetti Monster whatever...

I care more about what football team people support then their views on how the world began...

Come at me....

She probably pockets soap and shampoo from hotel rooms too.

Fun hand last - turned a straight into a bluff (which is rare, I think). Such a perfect spot for it though!

5/10 game, effective stacks 2k+

Hero: JT in the BB
SB: relatively weak/passive/nitty & scared money player (i.e. would open limp AQ/AK)

Pre (15):
3 limps, SB completes, I check.

Flop (50): QT9
SB check, I bet 40, MP call, 2 folds, SB call.

Turn (170): 8
SB check, I bet 100, fold, SB c/r 260, I call

River (690): A
SB leads 200, I raise 760....


Guy goes "I was gonna take you to town with KJ... I OWNED you ON THE TURN"... and finally folds. After he said that I really couldn't resist showing the bluff..... He actually said "You had a straight, why didn't you JUST CALL" and his face turned red and he went monkey-tilt (didn't spew chips though).

Next time show just the Ts and claim how could he not pay you off when you have a set...

I never do stuff like that, but that seems optimal in this situation. Works better if you just flash one quick and muck rather than the old flop one when everyone knows you're lying cause you coulda shown both if you weren't.

Well I just said "GOOD FOLD!" and flipped over the hand with only the J showing and only then revealed the T. It took him a second to figure it out... but damn was he pissed. I usually never show though.

I didn't even plan on bluffing diamonds. I just called the turn c/r thinking we might be chopping and planning to re-eval river. Then the diamond came and he bets 1/3rd pot... I think even with KJo its the same play on the river - the live donk just never has a flush EVER EVER EVER and its just a free roll.

Thought I was taking a really bad beat last night.

My 8th graders are all playing for my assistant coach on a spring team. I go to watch them play last night (they won big), and head off to a sports bar with some of the parents and players for dinner.

Hang out for 3 hours or so, and I have one 7&7 between 7 and 9pm, and nothing from 9-10. I also had a killer burger, fries, and a couple of diet cokes. I am not remotely impaired.

I head out of the bar at 10 pm, and I am cruising down a state road just a couple of minutes from the place. Suddenly I get the flashing lights in the rear view mirror. My first thought is "****! Didn't pay attention to the speed limit." I was going 45-ish (thought the speed limit was 45), and figured it must be 35 in that stretch.

I pull over, and have everything out when the cops walks up. He hands me back my insurance card and registration, and tells me I am weaving and not staying in my lane.

WTF?

He starts asking me questions about where I came from (pretty sure he knew - I think he was watching the bar parking lot), how long was I there, etc.. As we talk I guess it became clear I was sober, and he hands me my license back, chats some basketball with me (I mentioned why I was at the bar), and he lets me go.

I still don't think I was weaving, unless maybe I did so trying to stretch my back out or something.

That is my 4th interaction with law enforcement while driving in the past year. Zero tickets FTW!

57.

Got about $150 out of villain in a limped pot. The guy was so tight that I didn't think he could limp without a big ace.

Actually he bet the flop and check the turn, I made near pot-size bet on turn and smaller bet on river.

NH. If people on these forums would concentrate exclusively on getting value in "thin" spots, especially at 1/2 and 2/5, their win-rates would increase a whole lot.

LLSNL is basically 100% about thin value.

I actually disagree with this. We are not playing against pros. We play against opponents who don't fold. Plus its a preflop/flop game. How many times have you cbetted flop/turn and had more then 2x the pot ott/otr? Not often. Stacks are too shallow.

Pokah, I don't think you quite grasped what we are saying about thin value bet.

We're perfectly fine with players that don't fold, and we just keep attacking them with these thin value bets. Occasionally we run into monsters and make huge value bets, and because of our image of value owning ourselves at times with thin value bets, we almost always get calls in our big bets. Then when they're afraid of our big bets, they become big bluff bets...

Rinse and repeat.

If its a value bet we, by definition, don't want them to fold.

The shallower stacks shouldn't really matter too much. But theoretically it makes thin value bets easier because we are less likely to get bluff-raised.
In practice, since they never bluff-raise anyway, the stacksizes aren't all that relevant.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. In the pro world thin value works because they have bluffing range's because of aggressive play and deeper stacks. In low stakes stacks are so shallow so your villain is pot committed. That's why they call in thin spots.

My point is villains don't fold and have no clue they are pot committed due to stack sizes. We make a hand and bet simple as that. Most of the time villain has a spr of 1 ott/otr. Nothing thin, about that, they have to call.

Lmao, at I don't understand what thin value is. I'm on 2+2 everyday,smh.

???!!?!

Pokah I don't think you know what you're saying. You just said people don't fold so we can't value bet thinly. That's a reason for, not against.

It really doesn't sound like you know what thin value bet means, and your last sentence actually accentuates the sad fact that you haven't learned much being on 2+2 everyday.

PB. I knew you would respond with something continuing to disagree with people. What you are saying makes 0 sense and you don't appear to have read either response.

I don't understand what relevance you think bluffing ranges have. If anything, that makes thin value bets less likely because they are either 1) folding or 2) bluffraising us with their bluff ranges. Against players that don't have a bluff range its much easier to value-bet thin because he only have 1 question to answer "Will he call with a worse hand >50% of the time?"

Again, stack sizes don't matter. If they call wider because of stack sizes, great. You can value-bet EVEN THINNER. We don't want them to fold if we are value-bettings, ever.
Reading your posts ITT gives me the impression that you, in fact, don't understand what a thin value bet is. You seem to be assuming its some kind of bluff where we want them to fold sometimes. Since that isn't true, none of what you are saying makes sense.

I don't mean to be mean with this comment, but, whatever. There are several people ITT that win more money at higher stakes playing live poker than you do. All you do is disagree with those people. When you aren't disagreeing with those people you are complaining that you don't win enough to play higher stakes. Maybe you should consider, that rejecting the advice of people that are objectively better poker players than you is the cause of you not winning as much as you "should" be.

And I am not really referring to myself with that. But some of the people you have disagreed with repeatedly ITT on simple, fundamental concepts is just mind-blowing. But I know this won't get you to change your mind because you have some strange notion that you are the best poker player in the world and if you had a larger bankroll you would be winning millions. Good luck with that if you aren't willing to take simple advice from people on how to better accomplish that objective.

we should be. theists keep flying planes into buildings fighting wars and plunging the world into near chaos over who's imaginary friend is better

I think he's saying that thin value is too advanced of a concept for LLSNL, and that we should just call it betting cuz obv they're going to call so it's just value and not even that thin.

I don't actually think y'all are really disagreeing per se.

My translator could be broken tho.

I also believe PB thinks that every one of our bets on the river is a shove or close to it, especially if effective is less than 100bb.

+1million, hahahahahhahaa,