I was checking up on your modding of scantily clad asians for Mason since he was losing his bankroll to mpethy.

at some point we are into the law of diminishing returns.

Due to rake and the limitations of cards we have come up with this arbitrary max win rate of:

~ 20 $/hr @ 1/2
~50 $/hr @ 2/5

but then at 5/10 it apparently drops down to ~80 $/hr with some tiny tiny % @ 100 $/hr (like 1 or 2 players per player pool)

and then at 10/20 it drops down further to 120 $/hr with some tiny tiny % @ 200 $/hr (like 1 or 2 players per player pool)

As we coach the fish in our pool and people become better if you don't yourself become better your winrate will slowly drop to break even

The big thing is to not let the positive variance blind you to how bad you play.

I think u also need to factor in the buyin amount, softness of the games, and the availability of bigger games.

IMO, a $500 max action 1/2 game with consistant straddle and restraddle which is the biggest NLHE game in town can be beat for a higher wr than a nitty 2/5 game with a $300 cap which is the second smallest game in the casino.

Illeterate: It is normal to spend more time studying your game when u r on a downswing

Well a 1/2 game with a constant straddle isn't a 1/2 game. It is a 1/2/4 (or w/e) game.

I would like to play in a 1/3 1k max buyin game

Hmmmm... 11:42 pm Venice is in the 4L... Yeah, can't be good.

Lmao

would u consider a 1/2 game with frequent restraddles for $10 to be a $5/10 game then?

Just seen a Unicorn Ace, 7bet shove with 107o into the tightest player on the big game 0Human0 aka IgNit. IgNit calls the 7bet shove and says "I need a king" lmao.

He had KK

Yeah assuming the max buyin is deep enough

I mean the people itt claiming that somehow being short stacked doesn't affect winrates are just wrong. a 1/2 game with a 1k buyin with mandatory restraddles to 10 should play like a 5/10 game. If the straddles are just common you'll get some mean average where it plays like a 2/5 or 4/8 game.

Played my weekly session last night. They had all the games on in the poker room. Nothing beats sitting at a poker table playing cards while keeping an eye on the opening round of the NHL playoffs.

3 of the teams I've picked for hockey pool purposes to finish in the final 4 are currently down 1-0.

Gthankfully,IrunbetterinpokerthanIdoinhockeypoolsG

Typical internet argument ITT where people seem not to be paying attention to what the other side says. No one is saying playing shorter won't reduce your win-rate. Lots of people are saying that it won't reduce your win-rate in a linear fashion.

So the fact you win $50/hr with 100bb doesn't mean that if you reduce stacks to 60bb you will win $30/hr. It will be reduced, imo, at a rate that is somewhere below linear.

Yeah but what I am saying is that it is probably impossible to win 50 $/hr @ a 2/5 game with 300 dollar buyin and a flat drop

I don't want to get into an argument about the specific numbers. That may be right, I'm not really sure.

But you are certainly right that whatever your win-rate is at 500 cap it will be something lower at 300 cap.

Haha it wasn't an argument it was a debate! Anyway it is completely irrelevant because nobody will ever be at their long term win rate.

The structure of the game PB plays in is truly sucky, and the fact that there are a bunch of tables is offset by the fact that there really aren't that many deep whales. If there are eight games going and yours isn't that good, chances are the other seven aren't any better.

The few players who gamble gambool and spew chips, do it $200 or $100 at a time. I used to crack up playing with those guys. They'd buy in for $200, get whittled down to $40, call a PFR for 15, and a flop cbet of 20--leaving themselves $5 behind in case they hit their flush draw.

I have no idea what possible WR is for that game (I was an overall loser at it and stopped playing quickly). PB, why don't you play HG more than commerce? Do stack sizes stay small there?

When you move up, are you planning to play the 400 buyin game, or the 500-1500?

Playing anything than the 5/10 1.5k game at commerce sounds completely foolish imo

We're also mostly ignoring what the other side is doing. If you are going to win 10bbs /hr in a 2/5 game, that means a couple people have to lose more than that and sustain their loss rate.

Except those players tend to run out of money at times.

Do you play in a 500 cap game? I think 50/hr is about the ceiling for a 500 cap game, 1k is obvious a ton different.

The thing I've noticed over the past year is how many more people will buy in for 200-400 instead of 500 in my local 2/5 game. It sucks hard.

The worst thing about when people buy in for 200 is that I level myself into calling their jams or jamming back with JJ/TT/AQ and am like good 0% of the time.

I play at 3 different casino's with that structure. But I just alternate depending on what my mood is. I like HG better then commerce. Its all the same, Any given night you will see guys sitting on 300bbs+. Stacks get deep it just takes a long time. The key is to make yourself play long sessions. The structure is basically like a tournament. When you get a deep stack you just flip with the small stacks.

When I move up I play 5/10 500-1500. The 400 game is crap.

I just play to survive and take care of my kids.

Those hands crush my short stacking range. I must be doing it wrong.

I introduced myself, but I'm 99% sure he wasn't paying attention.

Heh, didn't see this until this morning.

Mason played a solid tag style for three or four hours and left up a little. I don't think he got fancy at all. The only possibility is when he 3 bet my cut off open--he might have been light, as it was the 4th or 5th orbit in a row I opened from either the cut off or the button. But I folded, so idk.

I didn't bust his roll, as Venice suggested might happen. I finished up on him 1bb, lol.

I love that thread. Also the women with athletic bodies thread.

Sorry you're running bad. 9 buy ins in 7 hours is pretty much as bad as it gets. Eh, I don't mean that as a prediction. You know what I mean. Brutal down swing.

You know you crush that game, though. You know that these 9 buy ins have only dented your win rate a bit. Go back and calculate your win rate for the last 3 months--you're probably still in the neighborhood of $70/hr or something ridiculous like that.

Punching the wall is ridiculous though, I am surprised you didn't get life banned