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02-18-2012 , 06:41 AM
I think that night I had something like 4.5k in reds, and 1k in random blacks/hundreds and greens that people were using. Wasn't that cumbersome, but then again I'm not one of those guys who stack in piles of 10 or makes all of the structures. Wow that drives me nuts.

After playing in Macau, the two chip system is the best way to have chips by a mile. Changing chips and getting counts is a pain in the ass that slows the game down. No one follows the rule of having the highest chips visible and the lower values in back.

Anything to get in a few more hands a hour imo.
02-18-2012 , 07:16 AM
Tonight I hate that my program had bar night, and it was at a popular undergrad joint so by the time I got there there was a cover and a line 40 Jersey shore fans long. So I went for some late night poker.

There was a classic live one; in every hand and getting there.

A6 on the A 6 5 7 5. he has the big 34 after the turn was checked through. nice of him to lead only 1/3 pot otr.

$75 left, AK all in pf called by only 3 people. His J10o fills up, cracking another player nut flush in the sidepot for giggles.

rebuy for $300 KQ otb in a straddled pot. I make it 40 over two limpers. The utg one called as he racked up to go play 20/40 LHE. J103. I cbet 125. HE c/r all in. I call and he tables AQ busted before my chips even arrived.

3rd rebuy got back to$700 ona lucky hand. L.O. opens 25 mp. I flat 55 otb. HU. J54. He leads 55 I make it 155. He asks for a count, then calls. Turn Q. I bet $275. He gives me the stare, face palm, 'I'm all in.' His JJ is good.

dangyoukidswhycouldn'twehavepickedgrownupbarinsnob sdale
02-18-2012 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Tonight I hate that my program had bar night, and it was at a popular undergrad joint so by the time I got there there was a cover and a line 40 Jersey shore fans long. So I went for some late night poker.

There was a classic live one; in every hand and getting there.

A6 on the A 6 5 7 5. he has the big 34 after the turn was checked through. nice of him to lead only 1/3 pot otr.

$75 left, AK all in pf called by only 3 people. His J10o fills up, cracking another player nut flush in the sidepot for giggles.

rebuy for $300 KQ otb in a straddled pot. I make it 40 over two limpers. The utg one called as he racked up to go play 20/40 LHE. J103. I cbet 125. HE c/r all in. I call and he tables AQ busted before my chips even arrived.

3rd rebuy got back to$700 ona lucky hand. L.O. opens 25 mp. I flat 55 otb. HU. J54. He leads 55 I make it 155. He asks for a count, then calls. Turn Q. I bet $275. He gives me the stare, face palm, 'I'm all in.' His JJ is good.

dangyoukidswhycouldn'twehavepickedgrownupbarinsnob sdale
i think i can top you ... friday night in pa.

my table breaks and i'm down about $70. get one good hand with AQ against 4 callers, flop an A take it down and only down about $20. get whittled down missing flops left and right. no bi deal, it happens.

anyway, the table is just crazy. it' $1/$2 and there's a straddle.

old guy limps in LP and everyone follows. straddler makes it $45. old guy makes it $145. should end the hand, right? not a chance. straddler calls with $111 behind. flop is QTx rainbow and he checks. Old guy shoves and he gets snap called. I figure it is AA vs. KK or a set. Nope. It's old guy's KK vs. Q6o. Turn is a 6 and the donkey gets rewarded.

later, guy makes it $10 with AA and gets called by the small blind and one other. flop is 455 and AA bets $35. sb calls... turn is a 3. he had A2o at which point i had to remark that i needed how to learn to play better poker so i can hit hands like that. (I of course had folded 45o from UTG+1 but that's another story).

same guy who called that out of the SB later picked up the mighty 10Jo UTG and made it $15. BB made it $45 and he called and turned the nuts in what could have been a $1,000 pot if BB hadn't folded his AA.

of course, BB had been going crazy all night; he called $115 pre out of a guy's eff. $200ish with 55 and shipped all-in on an AT6 board and got KK to fold (KK had no diamonds; board was all diamonds).

he later made it $100 pre over a bunch of limpers with 55, got one caller. flop was 642 and he shipped $304 and got called. he's gotta be behind right? nope. he got called by AJo. again, i can't keep my mouth shut and mutter something and guy was like, 'what? i think that's a call i have to make.'

a) i fold pre for $100. he can show me 72o after i fold and i still feel OK with it.
b) all you've got is two overs after the flop and no backdoor flush draw. you are seriously going to put $304 in the pot potentially drawing dead? i mean, you're probably not ever drawing dead as i doubt you are up against a strangely played AA more than 1 percent of the time, maybe slightly more who knows? but talk about money burning a whole in your pocket.

of course, i never get a hand at this table until i limp AKo and ship it allin preflop after a raise and a caller. next hand i get KQ suited, plan for a similar action from UTG only it gets no raises. flop KQ7. bet big. get 4 callers. ship the turn 5. get called by K5 ... EZ game when you actually get cards at a table like this.
02-18-2012 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
I'm just having fun with closing down peoples threads, custom under titles, closing down peoples threads, and having secret mod buttons... I like pressing buttons!!!! did I mention closing threads?

after further evaluations.... PAHWMs and COTMs do belong in there IMO. I like the link to the link to the link idea best though. Going to have to work on a better COTM containment thread first. The old is very outdated.
@APD, here's another really good one to add to the Best of Threads

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...rstand-950532/
02-18-2012 , 07:49 AM
oh ... that crazy table also had the clock called almost every other hand it seemed like. more times in a couple hours than in a couple of months.
02-18-2012 , 08:18 AM
No pokerz for me last night. Had to coach a 6th grade all star game. The league I am in has the feeder teams for 36 high school districts around metro Atlanta, and is really competitive. The All Star game is supposed to be a fun night, and and opportunity for the kids to play with the other top players from their region and have a good time in front of their parents/friends/relatives.

Sadly, the opposing coach took his a-hole pills yesterday morning. There are no organized practices for this - you get a list of names of players, they boys get an all-star jersey they get to keep, and they show up the night of the game and play. I don't even really know their names. There is no rule against having practice (in the past no teams ever do), but my kids come from 3 different counties, so logistics make it close to impossible.

This guy had several kids from his AAU program on his region team (his region covers less area geographically than mine) and held a couple of practices. They came out in a in-your-shorts full court man to man press. My boys haven't worked together ever, so each possession is just a turnover waiting to happen. followed by a lay-up by the other team. I also have 15 kids on the roster which are all supposed to play. I am subbing like I am supposed to do, and this clown is leaving his top kids in and running the score up.

So, we are down by 30 at the half in an ALL STAR GAME THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED FOR FUN. Nice.

I would like to say I handled the situation in a calm, collected manner. I would like to say that the other coach decided to show some class in the second half.
I can't.

I can say that when he lined up his team to continue the nonsense in the second half that I told the executive board member in charge the game that if the clown on the other end didn't drop the shenanigans, I was going to "knock him the **** out" at half court.
Words were exchanged. Referees got involved.
The other coach pulled the press off, both teams played hard and had some fun, and we lost by around 20.

I have coached these games before and they can be a blast if both coaches remember it is about the kids and not themselves. His defense was that he wanted to win and let his kids put on a show. Whatever. It is supposed to be a showcase game and a reward for a great season by a player, not someplace where you humiliate an 11-year old who doesn't even know the names of his teammates or coach.

The other coach tried to buddy up with me after the game. I would again like to say I let bygones be bygones. I didn't.
02-18-2012 , 08:55 AM
Sorry stampler in advance.

Well I was at the casino today, you know just working. Then my ex supervisor sits at my table. I wanted to take his money so bad and like impress him. I turned up the aggression, raising 4x opening my range up wide. Got in a pot where I c/r him on the river with the nut flush and he paid me off, lol.

Well anyway I start talking that poker "lingo". You know showing off and stuff talking about the game. Especially when a fish thinks I lost value. I really showed that guy he is an idiot.

Ok on to the story, A reg said dude what are you doing. He ask me, do you know what DW stands for. I said no, then he said its donkey whispering. I'm like "wtf", then he pulls me to the side saying "bro" don't let the fish know you have a clue. Your flapping your gums and you need to just sit there like an idiot. He said your giving away your edge.

But little did he know, I was sitting with my ex supervisor that fired me.

I let the forums down, because of my damn ego.

Today I focused on keeping pots small. The easiest thing to exploit is the "fish betsizing". Ok let me try to explain it. Say the pot is 100 and a normal value bet would be 75-80. Its high variance vs a lot of callers especially oop. I can bet 35 and get the same information and the same folds. Fish don't count the pot it amazes me what you can get away with.

Played a sick hand at 3am, I'm sitting with 600 up 300 for the night. Game is good and passive. People calling with entire range pre and post. That includes flat calling 15$ bets with fullhouses, lmao.

Hero raise QQ to 4x in ep, get 3 callers.

Flop A Q 5

Hero bets 40, call, call, raise asian reg, to 140, he has about 350 behind I cover, I insta shove all in, he snap calls with AK.
02-18-2012 , 02:17 PM
Crazy night last night...HH's to follow..... WOW!
02-18-2012 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by endodocdc
@APD, here's another really good one to add to the Best of Threads

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...rstand-950532/
added
02-18-2012 , 02:53 PM
Dont u guys hate going to the casino with non-grinder friends?

Yesterday me and a few friends were supposed to go to the bar but a bunch of them pulled out so me and a non-grinder friend decided to go to the casino (I usually go to the casino alone).

Firstly he wants to go to a ****ty casino with very few NL tables running, a bad atmosphere (imo), and not the greatest action. So we go to that casino and we both put our names on the 1/2 waiting list (no bigger games available tho I did put my name on the 2/5 interest list). We get seated pretty fast which is unusual for this casino. I buyin for my usual $500 and my friend buys in for $50 (lol).

A hour and a half in my friend is sitting with $130 and he wants to leave to protect his profit. Meanwhile I am cardead and played very few hands in this period and have accumulated a mighty $2 profit. So we both leave..the table must of laughed pretty hard.

PokahBlows: I have been in similar situations trying to impress people from RL when I see them at the poker tables. Its just not worth it imo. Also y r u opening QQ to 4x from UTG? In the game I play in that is just a pot builder, I open to atleast $12 usually $15+.
02-18-2012 , 03:04 PM
@fun101 I play 2/5, so I try to keep the pot small pre. While at the same time disguise my monsters.
02-18-2012 , 03:10 PM
4xbb is pretty standard in 1/3 and 2/5 fwiw
02-18-2012 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
4xbb is pretty standard in 1/3 and 2/5 fwiw
I mainly play 1/2 and my standard open is 7.5x. I have also played a bit of 2/5 (games dont run very often) and my standard open was $30. I guess games in different places play differently.
02-18-2012 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
That many chips is useless, you spend more time pruning your stack than paying attention.

Fwiw I dislike blacks and tend to go with greens.
reported for racism.
02-18-2012 , 03:32 PM
The best thing about blacks is that I can keep a few in my pocket so I can quickly reload if need be.
02-18-2012 , 03:35 PM
Yeah people raise to 30, it just bloats the pot and people will put you on the top of your range.

Ill much rather have the pot otf in the 60-80+ range instead of 90-120+ range otf. It makes a big difference in playing the hand.
02-18-2012 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
That many chips is useless, you spend more time pruning your stack than paying attention.

Fwiw I dislike blacks and tend to go with greens.
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The best thing about blacks is that I can keep a few in my pocket so I can quickly reload if need be.
Both infracted for racism. Lol.
02-18-2012 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The best thing about blacks is that I can keep a few in my pocket so I can quickly reload if need be.
in my game quarters are purples.

here we go...
02-18-2012 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
Yeah people raise to 30, it just bloats the pot and people will put you on the top of your range.

Ill much rather have the pot otf in the 60-80+ range instead of 90-120+ range otf. It makes a big difference in playing the hand.
The problem is in the games I played in, if u raise to $20 preflop u will go to the flop 6 ways and it kinda sucks being that multiway with a big pair.
02-18-2012 , 03:59 PM
TR of last night- Get home at 4:30 and tell wife Im going to play the pokers (dont even try to twist this I have ban hammer powers) we watch a show (New Girl, that show is hiliarious) and then I leave to pick up friend. I get to friends house and wait for him to get ready. I ask him if he still has the copy of Rounders I gave him so we can watch it on the way to the casino (~1 hour drive). We look around and no luck.We leave and he says KMart is down the street so we go there and look around for like 30 minutes. They have the ghey movies but not Rounders. So we go to a Walmart on the way and no luck. Another 30 minutes wasted. We see if there is a blockbuster around (there are actually still a couple of Kmarts and blockbusters left!) and sure enough 5 minutes down the road. We call them and ask if they have it for sale. They say no but they have it for rent. I told them I didn't want to rent it and they said to not return it then and it would be $10. So we go to BB and my buddy goes in for like 20 minutes... Next thing I know he's walking out empty handed. The one they had was rented out and the other one was in a broke disc pile. The girl says, "I didnt really think you guys were coming." Yeah right. In fact she probably realized her error by telling us we should keep it and snatched it off the shelf before we got there. So we say screw it and make the drive up... But wait another Walmart along the way... 20 minutes later and nothing. Should of been to the casino at 7 and dont get there until like 9 something. All for rounders. We did have some epic Rounders quotes on the way though. My buddy owes a guy some money from long ago and he asks me how much it was the he owed him to which I reply, "It's like 100 something, but I can't even figure it with the juice." Funny to us I guess. Get seated and play. Some lady puts some cotton candy perfume on and eveyone is talking about it. My buddy then says "actually that was me, the latex was cotton candy flavor." EVERYONE SNAP LOOKS AT ME AND THEY ALL HAVE YGOS FACES ON!! Im all helllllll nah!!!! Told them that he didnt even ride with me and I am not sure how he is getting home. Played some epic pots throughout the night. Next thing you know I look down and its 4 a.m. and everyone is talking about how icy the roads are because it snowed. I havent been up for 24 hours in a very long time and now I got drive in the snow half awake. Damn. Finally get home at around 6:30 this morning, wake up at 10 and am getting ready for our basketball game in an hour. GOGOGOGOGOGO!
02-18-2012 , 04:06 PM
mods should know how to use paragraphs
02-18-2012 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fun101
The problem is in the games I played in, if u raise to $20 preflop u will go to the flop 6 ways and it kinda sucks being that multiway with a big pair.
"Its low stakes, we play a value game, we raise a value range".

The fish are dumb, but they know if we are playing super tight range by limping and raising a very tight range.

My point is, if I raise 20 I can mix in hands in the HJ/mp and use my tight image. If your raising 30 your not mixing in any hands. Which leads to more limping.

So say you was to get 6 callers pot would be 120. You can b/f 1/3 pot. Most of the fish scatter away anyway. They don't know a 40<120 bet is a weak bet.

A lot of people here fail to notice this. I was falling victim to it too.
02-18-2012 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
"Its low stakes, we play a value game, we raise a value range".

The fish are dumb, but they know if we are playing super tight range by limping and raising a very tight range.

My point is, if I raise 20 I can mix in hands in the HJ/mp and use my tight image. If your raising 30 your not mixing in any hands. Which leads to more limping.

So say you was to get 6 callers pot would be 120. You can b/f 1/3 pot. Most of the fish scatter away anyway. They don't know a 40<120 bet is a weak bet.

A lot of people here fail to notice this. I was falling victim to it too.
I still prefer to get it 4 ways with a $30 raise. Its just tough on alot of boards when u r soo multiway even when u cbet small. Also I definatly use exploitable bet sizing preflop and raise to different amount with different strength of hands.
02-18-2012 , 04:20 PM
Was sitting with a 5/10 reg and online 100nl cash player. Dude was telling his whole business. Saying "all my friends moved to canada, mexico and argentina". He was a good player, but if I had his bankroll I would have an edge on him. Learned a lot from just watching him. He left with over 300bbs. He stayed away from me. I stayed away from him.
02-18-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
Was sitting with a 5/10 reg and online 100nl cash player. Dude was telling his whole business. Saying "all my friends moved to canada, mexico and argentina". He was a good player, but if I had his bankroll I would have an edge on him. Learned a lot from just watching him. He left with over 300bbs. He stayed away from me. I stayed away from him.
Was his name "Chris"? I have a friend and former sweat partner who would fit this discription.

      
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