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02-28-2011 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
Good luck. I LOVE shot-taking. The 2/5 here pretty much never runs though. I'm glad I've been playing online again lately because I get tired of grinding one level after like 15k hands at it, which is luckily about the time I've got a comfy roll for moving on up. I've gone from .02/.05 to .10/.25 in the last month. Next stop, .25/.50!
Eh, the 2/5 game was a home game, and a couple of people begging to play 2/5 rather than 1/2 no showed. Ended up playing short handed 1/2 for a while, where I got brutalized. Was down 2 1/2 buy ins, rallied back to down a little under 1 at the end of the night.
I knew I was due for some run bad, but this has gotten ridiculous. It is a soft game, but right now I am getting coolered constantly. The only thing saving me is that some of the regs play so bad that they let me off cheap when **** goes awry.

On the positive front, I am not really shot taking now. Due to some run good in past months, I ran my roll over $10K (I am a rec player), so I feel comfortably staked for 2/5, and well rolled for 1/2.
02-28-2011 , 01:30 AM
Good morning my dudes, just woke up after a 14 hour session.

I see dudes still questioning my existence smh.

Anybody can post a great hand well played. Sometimes you make a mistake and still recover with a better play on later streets. Those are the hands you wished you played better on earlier streets.
02-28-2011 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Good morning my dudes, just woke up after a 14 hour session.

I see dudes still questioning my existence smh.

Anybody can post a great hand well played. Sometimes you make a mistake and still recover with a better play on later streets. Those are the hands you wished you played better on earlier streets.
Yo Cali,

I want your input on a hand I posted. Check it out. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?p=25094147#post25094147
02-28-2011 , 01:45 AM
So yesterday I played with this mountain rocker internet white dude. Talking about online and all this. I was in a limped pot it got checked to the river. I made a flush, I checked he said I'm betting for value. I raise he got mad, started saying why would I do this.

I get in a hand later, I guess he could think I was a donk because I bought in super short. Because I didn't want to be at that table. Well but anyway my stack is now $200 after getting a double up. The white dude said he was going to leave. So I'm playing everyhand his last go around. I'm going to shove any TPTk+. Villain has about 800.

I pick up A A UTG+1 his last hand. I lol in my head I'm going broke in this hand. I didn't like this guy table coach type.

Ok utg limps I raise to $20, folds to villain who calls in the BB.

Flop 5 J 5

Perfect flop for me to shove, OMG he donks into me for $55, at the same time I said ima Hollywood him. I insta shove my chips and say "I guess you have me crush" he tables QJs lmao. He got up mad and I was ready for my table change.

Moral of the story, Don't talk about the internet it just makes you like a douche.
02-28-2011 , 01:50 AM
Nice hand
02-28-2011 , 12:00 PM
Aftermath of HU4rolls?
02-28-2011 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Like indoor plumbing... You push the handle thing and the water goes down. Everyone knows how it works.
you would be suprised how many building contractors don't really understand that s#*y% rolls downhill.
02-28-2011 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Aftermath of HU4rolls?
somebody was going to use that $50 to buy some food, but they can't now.
02-28-2011 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
somebody was going to use that $50 to buy some food, but they can't now.
Probably because someone else cashed it out to rub it on their titties.
03-01-2011 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by stampler
the hand i mentioned was at limit Omaha8. there is no FE, it doesn't exist.
like Kurt mentioned, this is a spot where normally you are just never scooping, so why raise, or even bet?? (K was actually at the table)
it's a negative freeroll, where you are never scooping, and getting scooped some of the time by 3324/ 33XX.
In this hand, it was against someone who had no clue,
which, if i had taken into account, ya, a raise isn't really bad, but still, w/out a low, and no big overlay, being HU, I'm just auto-calling.

that's the great thing about hi-lo games, people make these gambling plays where they are drawing for 1/2 the pot all the time, and it's super-profitable for the better player.

scoop is the name of the game.
quartering, a close second.

it's like an investment or a buisness oppurtunity where you either get your $ back, and gain nothing, or you lose it all;
take your pick.
sounds ridiculous, but people do it all the time, hand after hand, in split-pot games.
chasing a low, w/ no high, or drawing to a high hand w/ a low possible, and no low.
they are drawing to get thier own $ back.

what position was he in?

I'd agree he has the low most of the time which usually means a chop. But there seems to be more high hands he'd raise with then quads. For example who isn't raising A23 there? So unless he's a nit (like half of Omaha) I'd risk one more bet on the turn and expect to chop.
03-01-2011 , 07:41 AM
I was watching the WPT last night. Some internet dude said give him the table with the oldest guys. I thought that was pretty funny.

Tonight I get a table full of old guys. I got position on 3 fish. Two university director buddies and a doctor.

So I had to switch up my game plan for today. I had to show out with that aggro button strategy.

I'm confused you guys. I play different all the time. I don't have a consistent strategy. Like play one way all the time.

Does anyone else have this problem? Do most people play one style all the time? Is this good on my mental approach to the game?

Need advice
03-01-2011 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Aftermath of HU4rolls?
Hasn't happened yet. We'll see. Should be fairly easy, just got auto float his auto c bets and auto crush his soul
03-01-2011 , 10:04 AM
This is mainly a vent post.

I'm a winning player (in the $12/hr range for 1-2NL over 500+), but
I've started to realize that I tilt. I just don't tilt in the usual way.

Sometimes I go in and just flat out play horrible. Bad calls, no patience, try to bluff calling stations, etc. Many, many times I let a bad decision early gnaw at my game.

Last nite, I go in, buy in for $200 (I've often been buying short for $100 and looking for solid 3-bet spots PF at the --usual in my neck of woods- game where a $12 -$17 raise is called in 2 - 5 spots and I shove, but everyone looks relatively deep here so I buy full). Early on get raise a 78h on button, get a T78 flop all spades, bet $20, get a raise to $60 from a pretty solidly aggro player, I think a while and think he could do this with AT with As and shove (he has $110 behind) to rep. higher flush.

This was a stupid play. For one thing, this guy isn't folding the hands I think he might have -- small flush, AT with the As, or a set or a straight or even T8. All of those are in his range. Better hands aren't folding, worse hands aren't calling (AsTx is actually ahead of me, 53-47). I just didn't think this play through at the time. I just snap shoved. This is my problem. I don't stop and THINK I just auto pilot. Often a paradoxical combination of bad passive calls and stupid aggro bluffs.

Then the stupid decision gnaws at me and affects me the rest of the nite. And I play bad. I realize later I'm tilting (calling down someone I perceive as aggressively bluffing straddler, when I realize later he's shown nothing but overpair strength -- things like when I call his large flop bet, he already reaches for a stack of $100 to bet the turn).


So I have a session or two like this and donk off $400 and have to grind back the losses.

I'm just venting, but any feedback is welcome
03-01-2011 , 10:32 AM
An hour of bad play can waste a day of hard work. You tilt. Make better and more aggressive quitting decisions (quit when you start thinking bad before you start playing bad), don't play sessions for such a long time, quit easily and often when stuck, take more time with your decisions, make more intelligent buy in decisions (buying in more cause everyone is deep isnt that wise, buying in more because a calling station fish or two are mega deep makes sense, but your original plan of just waiting for a monster and squeezing the field seems really good)
03-01-2011 , 10:35 AM
Bring an ipod.

If you're having trouble focusing or slowing down to make big decisions and just letting your brain go into autopilot put a meditation course on there. I recommend Silva method.
03-01-2011 , 11:46 AM
i find it helpful to take a break after i make bad decisions. walk away, think about the hand.

i also break out my iphone and play this really simple baseball game. it helps me refocus.
03-01-2011 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
I was watching the WPT last night. Some internet dude said give him the table with the oldest guys. I thought that was pretty funny.

Tonight I get a table full of old guys. I got position on 3 fish. Two university director buddies and a doctor.

So I had to switch up my game plan for today. I had to show out with that aggro button strategy.

I'm confused you guys. I play different all the time. I don't have a consistent strategy. Like play one way all the time.

Does anyone else have this problem? Do most people play one style all the time? Is this good on my mental approach to the game?
Its not a problem. Its a good thing to always be adjusting to table conditions.
03-01-2011 , 12:03 PM
took 7th in a Macau tourney this weekend for 6k. Forgot how much I hate live tournaments.

Started off great as usual. Good stack sizes and whatever. About midway through the tournament it just gets ridiculous though. They start skipping levels like crazy. STupid stuff like going from 2k 4k 100 ante to 3k 6k 500 ante. At one point it went from 4k 8k 500 ante to 6k 12k 1k ante....

Also at one point we have a half hour break then get back to the tables, they start the clock and THEN say they are going to color up chips. We just had a ****ing 30 minute break... So anyways I'm the only one who had been stealing blinds so I had about 90% of the 100 dollar chips (100 ante at the time) at my table. I color up everyone then give my chips to a tournament director after a few players and myself voice our opinions about when they should actually be doing this. Well they take my chips and never give me any. About 10 minutes later, I ask another tournament director, who says to hold on. 10 minutes later I get up and tell the main guy who comes over and asks how much I had. I tell him I had 3 racks and a half for 7k. He says that I'm lieing because my math doesn't add up, then I tell him that I obviouls meant 3 stacks and a half.

He gives me some attitude and asks if I'm fos in a polite way, because if I am and he goes to the cameras he'll be upset. So they pause the tourney clock and 15 minutes later someone completely different brings me my 7k.

So between that and them running the clock while everyone is colored up we play about 3 hands in an hour and burn through an entire level.

Well after all the level skipping I go from an M of 16 down to 3 in 2 rounds and have to shove 6s utg at the final table. Get knocked out 7th even though there's only one other solid player at the table. Brutal.
03-01-2011 , 01:32 PM
^^^^
how much vig did you have to pay for such an awesome tournament product??

I could never ever play another tourney, and be just fine with it.
03-01-2011 , 01:45 PM
A pretty awful 12%, but the fields are so soft, I get VPPs and I still have this stupid dream that if I bink a few of these I could get set up as a pro.
03-01-2011 , 03:40 PM
Yeah would like others recommendations for slowing down decisions when they play live, I feel I make them too quickly at times, sometimes they seem trivial esp with most players lol bet sizing but there is usually one or two hands a session that I could have not called or made a better value bet or raise if I thought about the hand a bit more.

I think away from the table I break down hands fairly well but at the table sometimes I know I don't.
03-01-2011 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
A pretty awful 12%, but the fields are so soft, I get VPPs and I still have this stupid dream that if I bink a few of these I could get set up as a pro.
LOL. Been there done that. I think that wears on me more than anything else. Having your dream shattered time and time again in tournaments.
03-01-2011 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Its not a problem. Its a good thing to always be adjusting to table conditions.
I guess your right man. Sometimes you got to draw up a new game plan. Yesterday I played no hands oop. Except for aces and kings out of the small blind. Everything else was on the button or co.

I couldn't believe I played so solid. But it was the only way table was super aggro according to most LLSNL. And to top off the day, I flopped 3 flushes on the dealer button. So it just made the night easy.

I guess I have no strategy untill I feel the table out, I guess I'm growing as a player.
03-01-2011 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeymaps
Yeah would like others recommendations for slowing down decisions when they play live, I feel I make them too quickly at times, sometimes they seem trivial esp with most players lol bet sizing but there is usually one or two hands a session that I could have not called or made a better value bet or raise if I thought about the hand a bit more.

I think away from the table I break down hands fairly well but at the table sometimes I know I don't.
Formalize the process, stick to the process. Breathing also helps, seriously, take a slow (1 2 3 4 count) deep breath, hold it (1 2 3 4) and let it slowly (1 2 3 4) before acting.
03-01-2011 , 09:15 PM
i just wrote a rant about suited vs. unsuited connectors. those who disagree will have to face the consequences. meaning humiliation in this thread.

      
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