Seriously though ... in a lot of games a really wide limping range can be great if you can figure out the differences between the spots where you're going to get called off and paid well and the ones where you can steal the pot.

I'm not sure if that works better in a small player pool where you can profile your villains really well, or a large pool where they don't suspect what you're doing to them.

I think that comes with a lot of volatility that you don't really notice easily when these guys are playing that way too. You have to be rolled for it and willing to get in for a few BI while doing it.

Every time I fold pre I smash the flop.

So I just never fold pre.

Avas advice: go on a huge ****ing heater for 100s of hours

GG: Maybe we should do a collaboration because my book is about 6 sentences long.

Put a drink in the fridge then 15 min later it's gone

#triggered

Talk about a cooler! I'll show myself out.

He also does this! WTF i am so happy i found someone else who believes me. I dont care if its from 10 years ago. This is incredible.

A big part of this probably comes down to the ability to make really good live reads, both in terms of your stereotypical "tells" and in the weird betting patterns that live players tend to fall into.

I'm shocked that that post is 10 years old. I remember reading it and thinking that it applied well to many of the guys I saw in my local games, or the correct adjustments at least.

I get the feeling that there's a very thin line between crushing and getting crushed playing like that though.

Why so "War and Peace"?

Gmine'stwowordslong,butIleave10blankpagesfornoteta kingG

I thought the way to crush llsnl is to flop a big hand and cram money in cuz no one likes to fold

The limpy/slowplay/steal small pots strategy seems to be in direct contradiction with the above

I dont know sb2. Honestly. I wish I could discuss in person with a few of you bc in text it comes off as me being a break even fish who is taken in by a heater. Only one of those things is true.

All i know is i was a huge proponent of your first paragraph until early this year and now i am a cult follower of trying to understand the second.

That article describes him exactly. It is creepy.

If i get on my comp later i will find my posts and then I will take quotes from that article and link them up...but you should recognize that is how Ive been describing him. Passive pre, aggressive on turns rivers. Low showdown. Slowplays in really, REALLY weird multiway spots. Builds 10 buy ins.

Ugh you'll get out of this downswing and be back to breakeven soon enough, don't despair.



GG: I get into some of the tricky situations, like when to fold your bb when it limps around.

Haha

I'm aiming for the wider market and not the advanced market you are targetting, so that is simply encompassed in my singular "Fold preflop".

Gthat'llbe$3.50,thanksG

Yeah, I'm also taking a much softer stance on some stuff I would've earlier taken a much harder stance on.

In the end, it all seems so opponent / game dependent and where the table is at in terms of strategy. Like at my table of 5 years ago, doing anything other than x was just so bad. But now at my table of today, there's probably pretty good reasons for doing !x a decent amount of the time. And maybe that changes again in the future. And depending on where your table is right now makes all the difference in how applicable vs lol any advice can be.

The only thing that has me worried about your crusher situation is that unless you are accurately tracking every single one of his session results, you don't exactly know how crushing he is. I've cashed out chips at 99.5% of my sessions, and sometimes lottsa chips, but obviously I'm not remotely winning (let alone crushing) all of those sessions. I'm guessing a lot of regs in my room with an untrained eye (not saying yours isn't) guesstimate that I win pretty much every session I play.

BTW, how's your stalking going?

GbutI'ma1/3NLlifer,solol@meobviouslyG

Ava with a Bobby Fischer boner

Last 5 golf rounds I've shot 97, 96, 95, 95, and then finally 93. Getting out today after work, kinda get the feeling it's either going to be a 90 (bogey-a-hole!) or a 105 (I-hate-golf!).

Gfoldpreflop,ldoG

I think I know what you're talking about. I'm out but I have a few threads saved on my favourites and can look later. So you have the flat tire suited one?

Yea fw i found it posted snippet above. Its in our best ofs, "crushing 1/2 and 2/5" by kablooey

GG, it is incredibly hard! But i refuse to stop. I missed 2 key hands he played this weekend and am on major tilt from it.

Weird ish ethical ish situation.

Guy I've been playing/talking with for a few hours - friendly older guy who has been drinking. I'm on button with A9dd and we get to a river heads up. Board is 64546ddd. Pot is not huge - maybe 45bb. He led turn small (3bb or Sth which could mean a block or a boat and I called). When 6d hits river he leads 50% ish of pot. I pause to think and am thinking I should probably fold when he asks me why I'm thinking so long if I have a boat. I say 'I don't have a boat'. He says 'nor do i'. I believe him 100%.

Is it scummy for me to raise?

Ha, how's your results during all of this? I image this would be incredibly draining and taxing to your own game.

I'm still keeping track of preflop raises for an hour each session (a very simple yes there was one vs no there wasn't) and I'm having difficulties keeping up with even that.

GbreathinginandoutANDdoingsomethingelse?ya,rightG

I suck at tells, but isn't this quads/straightflush all the time with this type of table talk / action?

ETA: Basically, just play the hand how you think you should play it (I'd fold personally unless he's really drunk / has zero clue of hand values). He introduced the talking, you didn't even lie about your hand, and you don't think he's lied about his, so nothing unethical going on here as far as I can see, so make your play as you see best.

GcluelesstellsnoobG

Def not scummy but yes usually a tell of huge strength

No, I believed him 100%. He was honest and not angling. I know for a fact I'm good but I feel like I'm a scumbag if I raise because he was being open and transparent with me and the only way I would possibly be raising was because of the info he'd given me

I think I can min raise for sure and just make it a part of the conversation

edit - in rules and 'unwritten rules' I'm not being scummy with a raise, it's more that I think in the flow of our table talk I think it wouldn't have been 100% kosher and may have ruined the vibe of our table.

Probably not something that can be answered unless you were there (a little like a Mike Starr story)