***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***

[axiomtek]

Originally Posted by ashley12

Thats fine unless you DO want to chp J3o and 64o. Selective chopping is super bad imo...

Well, even if u did it would be super exploitable. Anytime u ask for a chop the other player can say no and raise u

[iLikeCaliDonks]

I guess everyone playing tonight. I'm so tired I already put in 40 hours this week. I'm going to save my energy for tommorrow when all the mma degens are playing poker watching the fight.

[Percula]

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

Are you kidding me my dude. Fold pre, is the best your brain can come up with. I'm a more detailed person then that. If someone raises pre they have an argument to play with aggression with any hand. Am I right or wrong?

You are right, they almost always have a reason, and IME its generally wrong or missing key elements that end up making it wrong. Being a consistent winner in LLSNL games is about hitting hands and value betting the hell out of them.

Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

You got it all wrong, the objective is to see as many flops with the fish. Postflop is when you outplay them.

Once I found out how these Asian lags in la play oop in pots. I caught on very quickly.

So how exactly do you "out play" the typical rec LLSNL player when they are not thinking beyond their own two cards? BTW that is a rhetorical question...

And now back to your daily dose of "The **** iLCDs says"...

[iLikeCaliDonks]

Originally Posted by Percula

You are right, they almost always have a reason, and IME its generally wrong or missing key elements that end up making it wrong. Being a consistent winner in LLSNL games is about hitting hands and value betting the hell out of them.



So how exactly do you "out play" the typical rec LLSNL player when they are not thinking beyond their own two cards? BTW that is a rhetorical question...

And now back to your daily dose of "The **** iLCDs says"...

You outplay by floating and making big hands. That's how, you right you have to hit.

I don't know what games yall play. But in cali people go to the casino to play poker. And most can't read a board. But as long as you are making plays. They will learn they lesson its only a matter of time. I connect on a straight, flush or some wierd 2pair.


Now that I think of it, I think your rhetorical question was a level.

The average person knows this is a game. Bums always get outplayed. They have no choice when there up against a good player.

[Gordon Scott]

[QUOTE=stampler;25021668]limit Omaha 8
you have AA7T
board is A353
you are heads up, bet, and get raised,
obv, you have no low.
does anyone reraise??
it's not unrealistic that you could be getting scooped here, btw.
(wat did he call flop w/ anyways??)[/

Ive played a fair amount of o8 and plo8 live as low as it gets and as high as 20/40 limit and 1/2/5plo8. Like a lot of poker questions there is not a black and white yes or no answer to this question.

A thinking player will stop raising with only a nut low even with redraws on the turn for fear of being 3/4ed. A player with A3 and the nut low may continue to raise and get counter fitted on the river. We have a draw at an emergency low on the river. A player with 33 with our without a low will continue to raise until the racks are empty.

Personally, on the turn I'd bet or raise and reraise and call. On the river if I made a low I'd go to the felt 100 BBs deep or less. It depends on the villain but with only a high I think i would still get in 3 or 4 bets.

[venice10]

Originally Posted by axiomtek

Well, even if u did it would be super exploitable. Anytime u ask for a chop the other player can say no and raise u

Not that ANL believes in etiquette, but it is expected that you'll always chop or never chop. Of course the last time someone changed their mind on chopping, I raised their complete of the SB, and then potted the next two streets. Later I noticed he decided that being consistent wasn't a bad idea.

[MK7749]

i always chop unless noted otherwise.

at 3/5 its a bit different, at the 2/2 overwhelmingly the people wont play HU or plays super duper passive so there really is no point unless for some crazy longshot to jackpot.

[stampler]

just had a weird thought;
poker is like indoor plumbing.
people are around it on a daily basis,
yet they are totally mystified by it.

like, you don't have to know what gravity is to flush a toilet.

[iLikeCaliDonks]

"My real friends never here from me I like to pick n choose, I don't get sxxx confused, I gotta small circle I'm not with different crews, we walk the same path but got on different shoes, live in the same building but we got different views, just know I speak in 2s"

Just to let yall know I'm down for all you dudes. 2+2 is my home I respect all your opinions. And surely by not least I look at you guys as my poker fam.

Thankyou for dealing with me.

[smokingrobot]

anyone here familiar with machinima.com ? heard of? watched videos etc?

[Koss]

Originally Posted by stampler

just had a weird thought;
poker is like indoor plumbing.
people are around it on a daily basis,
yet they are totally mystified by it.

like, you don't have to know what gravity is to flush a toilet.

So that makes us plumbers?

How about electricians. I think that works too. People are even more mystified by that stuff. When I was in school for electrical engineering I don't know how many times I heard mechanical engineering students say "I don't like the electrical stuff, you can't SEE it!!

I don't think people are totally mystified by poker. They think they understand it but they've misinterpreted some very basic principles of it. I'm not sure what the good analogy there is though...

[ashley12]

Originally Posted by smokingrobot

anyone here familiar with machinima.com ? heard of? watched videos etc?

I know nothing of the site, but I do watch a lot of Red vs Blue.

A surprisingly large number of quotes from that show can be directly used on this forum IMO...

[ashley12]

Originally Posted by Koss

So that makes us plumbers?

How about electricians. I think that works too. People are even more mystified by that stuff. When I was in school for electrical engineering I don't know how many times I heard mechanical engineering students say "I don't like the electrical stuff, you can't SEE it!!

I don't think people are totally mystified by poker. They think they understand it but they've misinterpreted some very basic principles of it. I'm not sure what the good analogy there is though...

Sex ldo. Everyone thinks they are good at it, only a few really are though.

[BigSkip]

Taking my first stab at 2/5 today.
Hope I run g00t!

[Koss]

Originally Posted by ashley12

Sex ldo. Everyone thinks they are good at it, only a few really are though.

Bingo. And just like poker, I'm pretty damn good at it.