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06-03-2012, 07:11 PM
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#17341
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GiveMeMVP
I don't like flatting to float a lot of flops when you know he will barrel 3 streets. If you're going that far then just close your eyes and call all the way down.
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My plan on this board is to flat.
On a 328 board I am 3betting flop
On a QJ5 board I am folding to pot bets
Last edited by 1ns71nct; 06-03-2012 at 07:17 PM.
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06-03-2012, 07:19 PM
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#17342
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: beantown
Posts: 5,150
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
Playing 5-handed with regs.... Lol
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06-03-2012, 07:21 PM
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#17343
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,593
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
sorry I shouldn't of said that's dumb
that's rude of me
but basically u 4b to induce and try to get stacks in pre/ let him call OOP with dominated/inferior hands
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There seems to be a huge gap between what you think will happen and what actually takes place in LLSNL.
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06-03-2012, 07:23 PM
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#17344
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by masaraksh
Playing 5-handed with regs.... Lol
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I am currently taking the night off..
Hungry, horny, need my study time and hungry.
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06-03-2012, 07:27 PM
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#17345
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: [ ] valuetown
Posts: 127
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ns71nct
My plan on this board is to flat.
On a 328 board I am 3betting flop
On a QJ5 board I am folding to pot bets
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Okay, well, why are you flatting flop? Are you doing it as a bluffcatcher, or to bluff?
If you're bluffcatching, fold unless you have some kind of read that this guy will keep monkey barrelling all of his air.
If you're flatting to bluff...still fold unless you have that read.
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06-03-2012, 07:35 PM
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#17346
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,418
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I am flatting this because I think against this villain specifically the best line to extract most value here is to flat,what line looks stronger from a player like me a c/r turn or flop? Turn looks bogus, flop is scary, so I would choose this as my default against a villain who I knew would not barrel turns. Since he is more likely to barrel turns, I think this is one of the best ways to extract value from him
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06-03-2012, 07:50 PM
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#17347
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: [ ] valuetown
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
Fair enough.
And I think a turn c/r looks way more legit, flop c/r looks so much more standard to me, while the range that you're repping is the same.
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06-03-2012, 07:56 PM
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#17348
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adept
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ns71nct
I am flatting this because I think against this villain specifically the best line to extract most value here is to flat,what line looks stronger from a player like me a c/r turn or flop? Turn looks bogus, flop is scary, so I would choose this as my default against a villain who I knew would not barrel turns. Since he is more likely to barrel turns, I think this is one of the best ways to extract value from him
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Dude you're playing a level 1 player. Don't level yourself into thinking. I should play a certain way to extract value. Keeping air in his range blah blah blah. His 3bet and flat bomb let's you know he has a hand. You're not getting paid unless you have a hand when he has a hand. Flop call is wishful thinking and terrible.
If a guy is playing a lot of hands you don't get paid by letting him barrel air. That's vs competent opponents. Don't level yourself.
Also flop flat is horrible. Board is paired and you have 6 outs at best. If you ask me you have 3 outs to a winning hand. Not great odds facing a pot size bet otf. Do you even use pot odds to make calls. Sure doesn't sound like it.
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06-03-2012, 08:10 PM
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#17349
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PokahAllday
Dude you're playing a level 1 player. Don't level yourself into thinking. I should play a certain way to extract value. Keeping air in his range blah blah blah. His 3bet and flat bomb let's you know he has a hand. You're not getting paid unless you have a hand when he has a hand. Flop call is wishful thinking and terrible.
If a guy is playing a lot of hands you don't get paid by letting him barrel air. That's vs competent opponents. Don't level yourself.
Also flop flat is horrible. Board is paired and you have 6 outs at best. If you ask me you have 3 outs to a winning hand. Not great odds facing a pot size bet otf. Do you even use pot odds to make calls. Sure doesn't sound like it.
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Fair enough as well. So I should wait for another spot when I have more info?
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06-03-2012, 09:16 PM
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#17350
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ABC value-town on level one
Posts: 3,410
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
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Originally Posted by PokahAllday
"So called" experienced llsnl players still can't fold 1 pair. That's why holdem will always be profitable. People have a "Oh well **** it" attitude with big pairs and love to say "oh I got sucked out on otr" or "I had AA I got my money in good". If holdem is not your livelihood and you play for fun then yeah who cares. People should be embarrassed losing 150bbs+ with over pairs and AK. They only look at preflop equity. Instead of flop equity.
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Dude, you live in LA, get a grip
Also, FYP, lol
still not convinced that you indeed are ILikeCalidonks, you may fit the same profile, employ the same vernacular, and even occupy the same space, but PokahAllday has a slightly different character
I successfully dodged getting hustled by 2+2er in Vegas mostly due to superior discipline.
whew!
that is the extent of my trip report this time.
Last edited by stampler; 06-03-2012 at 09:26 PM.
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06-03-2012, 09:29 PM
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#17351
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Cant Cflat Aint My Tone
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Team Blue Shark Optics @friscochris
Posts: 9,842
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
Playing a tourney online... I raise huge from the button over a limper. SB,BB,Limper all call. Pot is big... I flop 2 pair... WOOOOOOOO.... internet goes out!!!! WTF!!! Finally get it back up and tilt shove my stack.
nodisciplinewhenIgettilted.jpg
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06-03-2012, 09:29 PM
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#17352
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adept
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 906
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
I would love to hear about this "slightly different character"?
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06-03-2012, 09:35 PM
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#17353
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Cant Cflat Aint My Tone
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Team Blue Shark Optics @friscochris
Posts: 9,842
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
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Originally Posted by stampler
Dude, you live in LA, get a grip
Also, FYP, lol
still not convinced that you indeed are ILikeCalidonks, you may fit the same profile, employ the same vernacular, and even occupy the same space, but PokahAllday has a slightly different character
I successfully dodged getting hustled by 2+2er in Vegas mostly due to superior discipline.
whew!
that is the extent of my trip report this time.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PokahAllday
I would love to hear about this "slightly different character"?
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It's been confirmed by me. I have his phone number and confirmed it longgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ago. Kept it undercover brother and laughed at all you guys who feed off of the IlikeCaliDonks persona. You guys are like APD when he plays online pokerz. Flop huge>turn internet off>Tilt shove on reconnect when it comes to Pokah/ILCD/Ghost/etc.
Pokah... how about you log back onto the ILCD account and use that again. Venice said your ban was up (even though you never left) so technically you could use it again. People get a hard on when they see that name. It's now 2+2 legendary status.
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06-03-2012, 09:37 PM
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#17354
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adept
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 906
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
But first I want to hear about the slightly different character. I have explanations for everything.
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06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
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#17355
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Cant Cflat Aint My Tone
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Team Blue Shark Optics @friscochris
Posts: 9,842
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Re: ***Official "It Lives, It Lives" Chat Thread***
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Originally Posted by PokahAllday
But first I want to hear about the slightly different character. I have explanations for everything.
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What he means is that you have become more responsible and growing into a fine young man. Need some more ILCD baby momma drama IMO.
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