Villain is older reg who has decent discipline, but is passive and overpays for draws. (about $200)

Hero is second youngest player at table at 40, hasn't been sitting long, but if V notices or remembers previous sessions, hero is tight and plays his made hands very fast. (Covers, maybe $275)

5 limpers to me and I overlimp with 5s6s OTB. BB bumps it to $6 and most call.

Pot: ~$38 after rake
Flop: 3sTs7s
Checks to V in MP who leads for $12, folds to hero who raises to $37, folds back to V who tanks and calls. I put his range for this as made non-nut flushes, a pair with As, maybe naked As or 89 with one spade.

Pot: $110 (rake now maxed)
Turn: 3sTs7s Ad
V checks. Hero bets $50 to get value from As that just hit TP or 2p. V calls pretty quickly, leaving just over $100 behind

Pot: $210
River: 3sTs7sAd 8c
V checks. Will 2p pay off three streets enough to make this a bet, or is it too thin and hero should just check behind as only better flushes will call a half/pot shove?

So close. If deeper I bet/fold a silly 1/3 psb since he is not creative enough to turn his hand into a bluff. I think I shove IF my image was a little FOS. I would have bet $60-65 OTT since the ace smacks his calling range.

If he calls all 2 pairs I shove. If not I check back. This is read based. Based on description and typical 1/2 players I just shove.

Another thing, its much better to value own yourself than let someone off easy if they will still call with worse. a 1/2 PSB seems more +ev than a check back, but expect to own yourself a decent amount.

Yea I agree, conventional wisdom would say that you should shove for 1/2 on the river, and maybe that is optimal, but these type of players rarely if ever call big bets on wet boards with 2 pair or something less then the nuts. The problem is that this type of player might actually show up with like a K-high flush because he's scared on the A-high flush. I have value-owned myself soooo many times against old nits who just call my river bet with K-high and Q-high flushes.

I still think checking is too passive and I 100% agree with Pay4Myschool that its better to value-own yourself then to let villain away with not having to call a river bet.

Like stated above I think a stupid 1/4 pot $50 bet is the best play, because Villain will likely call with 2pair and sets, maybe even the A And you can actually safely fold even for your last $50 because this villain will never raise the river without nuts or 2nd nuts. imo.

OK, let's change this up a bit. Right after this hand, floor comes to V to have him stand up because someone want to sit and the table is full. At this point we realize he is a prop player. If we had known this before, how does it change our decision?

I'm not familiar with prop players. How exactly would it change your read? I'm assuming a prop player is more likely to be loose-passive. The hand seemed pretty straightforward, can't see any real arguments for not betting 1/2 pot on the river. Non-flushes would still call, especially after calling first-two streets, IMO.

Prop players are generally quite tight, as they play on their own BR and get an hourly from the casino. They are often (but not always) on the nitty side and need that hourly to add to their WR to make a living. Look at it this way, they see the hourly as higher EV than being able to choose their own hours and game select.

I'm guessing you shoved and villains snapped you off with a higher flush. I still don't think shoving is a leak. This is one of those spots similar to sets on a 3 card straight board like 7 8 10 monotone for 100bb. Hero has 88 and is facing heat with 100bb effective stacks vs a tigher thinking player. A fold isn't bad, a shove isnt bad.

I think in this case a shove and a check back are really close. I think your comparing a couple $ either way (vs a villain of this description)

Obv I thought it was close, or it would get its own thread instead of being here.

I'm pretty new to the table. Have no real image thus. MP is a middle aged asian man wearing a shirt with what appears to be his name on it. Not much more to go off than that, I haven't seen him at the casino before. CO is a black man in his 20s or 30s, whom is an awful and passive regular.

$1/2

MP and I are 100BB eff, CO has perhaps $70 or $75.

Limp or two.
MP raises to $15.
CO calls $15.
Folds to me
I look at QQ in BB
I raise to $52
Folds to MP, who calls.
CO calls.

J76 (~$150)

I open shove my $148.

Anything wrong here?

The 3bet set up a SPR to shove all non-K/A flops.

don't see how i can possibly play the hand any differently. CO calls, shows KK

it's just a cooler dude.

I know, I was saying nothing wrong. Villain got lucky with FPS lol. You could've had AA, JJ, he's only tying the other two Ks. Oh well.

silently thank CO for not having 100BB. You lost 37BB with an overpair. Next hand.

Anyone know an easy way to count flush draw combos?

Say we have (A 8) and the flop is

A T 5


The only way I can think of is to go through each Kxhh, Qxhh, Jxhh etc. in villain's range and count.

Is there a better way to get an idea of how much of a villain's range is flush draws besides counting combos?