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02-14-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

We're getting direct odds to call, are we calling or shoving?
155 to win 528 if my math is right. That is not getting correct odds to see the turn to draw to just the flush. (Not sure if our Ace would be good here).

We want to see the turn + river and if a heart hits the turn, we're not going to get paid often enough to make up for calling flop with improper odds.

Ship it.
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02-14-2017 , 02:01 PM
1/2 NL 8 handed

V MP ($120) Bought in for $100 a few orbits ago. fairly active, kinda straightforward/bad. Wittled down to $55, then raised to $10 after 2 limpers and got 5 total callers. Shoved Q43 flop for $45 and doubled up with QJo.


folds to V raises to $5, Hero raises to $20 on button with AQo. SB ($100) calls, folds back to V who raises to $40 total. Hero?
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02-14-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
1-3, late night @ casino

Hero, $800 UTG, should have a winning page

V1: $425 MP, sat down maybe 3 hands ago, zero reads

V2, maybe $700 BTN, bad player. Calls way too much with bad hands pre/post

Hero opens to 15 with A♥️J♥️

Folds to V1 who 3! To 45

Folds to V2 who takes it to the face

SB and BB both take it to the face also

Hero was going to fold if it just came back around without callers, but now that 3 Vs have called, I talk myself into a call

5 to the flop

Flop (218): 8♦️4♥️2♥️

SB, BB Hero all check

V1 bets 155

V2 calls

SB/BB fold

V1 has ~ 225 behind
V2 has ~ 400 behind

V2 never has 2P+ here based on flat

V1 probably has an overpair, since we block the NFD hands that might 3!

We're getting direct odds to call, are we calling or shoving?


I shipped

V1 snap called
V2 tanked, started trying to figure out how much the side pot would be, which led to interesting convo from people who didn't understand what he's doing, including V1, then eventually folded, claimed a 4 (wat?!?)

Turn 4x (lol)
River brick

V1 shows 2 black queens and drags in almost 400bb
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02-14-2017 , 03:38 PM
^^^^

Nice hand postflop, imo. We're basically flipping with QQ with huge dead money, and just adding 10% of FE (I'm guessing we should probably have more than that) moves us into decent fave territory and trivial ++EV territory.

Gpracticehittingyourdrawsinbigpots,imoG
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02-18-2017 , 12:35 AM
When is the best time to take a pee in a live 1/2 game? Lets say you have to miss 2 hands.
I used to miss UTG and UTG+1, but I've recently tried missing both blinds. Only thing is, I miss my button, and I have to post $3 for my first hand back in the CO. $2 of that goes towards a limp preflop and the last $1 goes into the pot.
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02-18-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by niceguy22
When is the best time to take a pee in a live 1/2 game? Lets say you have to miss 2 hands.
I used to miss UTG and UTG+1, but I've recently tried missing both blinds. Only thing is, I miss my button, and I have to post $3 for my first hand back in the CO. $2 of that goes towards a limp preflop and the last $1 goes into the pot.
My default is to take all the free cards I can, which means I play until I have to post. You can always just take a break & come back in next round, but posting in late position is better than the normal worst position, so there's that. I always take a break every hour so I usually just go then. I'm a healthy adult and can hold it.
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02-18-2017 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubey
1/2 NL 8 handed

V MP ($120) Bought in for $100 a few orbits ago. fairly active, kinda straightforward/bad. Wittled down to $55, then raised to $10 after 2 limpers and got 5 total callers. Shoved Q43 flop for $45 and doubled up with QJo.


folds to V raises to $5, Hero raises to $20 on button with AQo. SB ($100) calls, folds back to V who raises to $40 total. Hero?
Very trivial spot where we'd have to hit flop hard to feel good at all. SB (a read on SB's range would help) is coming along no matter what & given the min-bet from V1, I think we're trying to spike an A vs premium pair at best. AQo doesn't fare well against a 4bet range, and even a 1/2nl 3b calling range. Assuming SB doesn't randomly shove, we're about neutral price wise to call the $20. The issue is, with such shallow stacks, it'll be hard not to gii on many flops where we're out-kicked or sometimes just drawing dead. I think this is a fold.
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02-22-2017 , 11:56 AM
Trying to not limp at all. Standard table raise at 1/2 is 10-15. 4 players limp to me on the button with 44. What's a good raise size? 100bb
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02-22-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by foldandclose
Trying to not limp at all. Standard table raise at 1/2 is 10-15. 4 players limp to me on the button with 44. What's a good raise size? 100bb
Depends what your goal is.

GimoG
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02-22-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by foldandclose
Trying to not limp at all. Standard table raise at 1/2 is 10-15. 4 players limp to me on the button with 44. What's a good raise size? 100bb
You shouldn't open limp. Limping behind in multiway pots with hands that play well multiway is fine. Low pocket pairs fall nicely into this category.

If you decide to raise, make it 16-20. You are raising as a bluff to take it down pre, not for value.
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02-22-2017 , 06:29 PM
I'm never raising 44 after 4 limpers but then again in my game no raise short of $100 is going to get all 4 limpers + the blinds to fold. I over limp here pretty much always.
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02-23-2017 , 02:00 AM
Standard or no? I feel like standard.

V (550) on Button - LAGish former vegas live pro
H (350) MP - TAG reg, known winner, not sure what V thinks of me

OTTH 5 rake + 1 bbj

Button straddle, BB calls, Folds to H who raises to $25 w/ AKhh, V calls, BB calls

Flop 8cTcAd ($70) checks to hero who bets $50, V calls, BB folds.

Turn: Tx ($170) hero check? bet-fold? bet-call?
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02-23-2017 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nicname
Standard or no? I feel like standard.

V (550) on Button - LAGish former vegas live pro
H (350) MP - TAG reg, known winner, not sure what V thinks of me

OTTH 5 rake + 1 bbj

Button straddle, BB calls, Folds to H who raises to $25 w/ AKhh, V calls, BB calls

Flop 8cTcAd ($70) checks to hero who bets $50, V calls, BB folds.

Turn: Tx ($170) hero check? bet-fold? bet-call?
I like Bet/Fold. I want to charge draws still and we have a great Value hand. Opponent can call with plenty of worse hands.
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02-24-2017 , 11:46 PM
couple of hands i wanted to share from today's 1/3 session:

raise to 10 pre i call along with 4 others with A7ss

578 flop is checked around
A on turn i bet, mp calls, SB c/r looks real calm, almost stony so i fold, mp goes all in and SB turns over A4 and scoops after a blank river. (

i raise 79cc in EP, villain who is drunk calls (real loose), 2 more callers
AT3cc checks around
5 turn, i bet 50 and only villain calls
river 7 i check, villain bets 150 and it makes no sense to me and after a little banter with villain i call and he flips k2cc and i scoop.

2 kinda funny hands to share. flame away!
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02-26-2017 , 04:37 PM
Quick Line check.
QJ OTB in multi limped pot... Hero raises to $16 4 callers.
Flop (pot ~65)
AQ 2
Checks around.
Turn
9
Checks around ... Hero bets $50 1 caller (Good Reg)
River (~165)
Brick.
Check check. V shows an A takes it down.

OTT should i be checking and taking a free card with 2nd pair and a good flush draw? If i check what is my plan facing action on an unimproved river?
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02-26-2017 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dblrun28
Quick Line check.
QJ OTB in multi limped pot... Hero raises to $16 4 callers.
Flop (pot ~65)
AQ 2
Checks around.
Turn
9
Checks around ... Hero bets $50 1 caller (Good Reg)
River (~165)
Brick.
Check check. V shows an A takes it down.

OTT should i be checking and taking a free card with 2nd pair and a good flush draw? If i check what is my plan facing action on an unimproved river?
I'd probably give better feedback w/out seeing results, but I like checking this down all the way. 2nd pair means nothing in a 5 way pot & since we do have some showdown value, why not get there cheaply as possible. I like the river check. Hands that beat us are likely to call no matter what. Stack-sizes and reads would help as well.
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02-26-2017 , 05:57 PM
5/5 Monster set.

V is MAWG who seems to play frequently. Kinda looks like a country-rock fan that's upper middle class & rides a motorcycle every other Sunday. Only 40 min of play, but seems overall loose-passive pre, but will show a mix of aggression and stickiness post.

$1300 eff

V opens $25 in UTG+2, Hero w/ KK $75 in SB, folds to V $275, Hero calls. Would appreciate critique, but feel this is standard.

Flop $550

K96 two-tone no blocker

Does hero lead or check to the aggressor for a c/jam or even c/c?
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02-27-2017 , 01:49 AM
check and beat his AA that i'm sure he's thrilled to bet or probably not getting more than one more bet out of QQ/JJ so no need to try and get it here
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02-27-2017 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
5/5 Monster set.

V is MAWG who seems to play frequently. Kinda looks like a country-rock fan that's upper middle class & rides a motorcycle every other Sunday. Only 40 min of play, but seems overall loose-passive pre, but will show a mix of aggression and stickiness post.

$1300 eff

V opens $25 in UTG+2, Hero w/ KK $75 in SB, folds to V $275, Hero calls. Would appreciate critique, but feel this is standard.

Flop $550

K96 two-tone no blocker

Does hero lead or check to the aggressor for a c/jam or even c/c?


I guess the real problem is what is your plan when you don't flop a set, since you're calling 1/6 remaining effective stacks to see a flop.
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02-27-2017 , 03:16 PM
2/5

V (covers) very reggish, semi-pro, opens to 20 UTG. One caller in LP. Hero (900) with AA raises to 90 in SB. V 4b to 275, folds, Hero calls. No history; but feels like perhaps 5% chance this is a light 4b.

Flop is K85r. Hero?
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02-27-2017 , 06:02 PM
check/shove. SPR is <1.5, if he has KK it sucks, but you are always getting it in here.

If he checks, bet $250 turn, rest on river.
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02-27-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
I guess the real problem is what is your plan when you don't flop a set, since you're calling 1/6 remaining effective stacks to see a flop.
You're right, I felt the situation was a bit precarious. Do you really suggest we fold though? If I had missed, my option would have been to go for the cheapest showdown possible. Also, assuming stacks go in post, we're getting 1:12 to set-mine.
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02-27-2017 , 08:53 PM
200/1225
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03-04-2017 , 03:35 AM
Nothing makes me happier than making a big fold.

$160 eff. $1/$2 NL.

Bunch of limpers. Hero raises to $22 from the big blind with AA.

One guy calls.

Flop 774, two diamonds. I have Ad.

I bet $18 to get called by weaker pairs.

V raises to $78. I wait. He takes a drink of water. I fold AA face up. Dealer looked at me with her mouth wide open thinking I was a moron.

V shows 7h 6h.

They make it so easy sometimes.
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03-04-2017 , 08:32 AM
1-2 NL. Hero (fairly tight, been card dead most of the night) has $300, V1 (very LAG) has $500, V2 (more TAG) has ~$150.

Hero (SB) has JJ
After a few limpers I make it $20 and two villains call, everyone else folds.

Pot is $75ish.

FLOP: K54

I lead out for $50. V1 calls. V2 shoves for another $65 (so his bet was $115 total, allowing for a subsequent re-raise)

Action is back to me.

Is this a call (only have to put in $65 into a pot with $240)?

Is this a fold (worried I might be dead to a King, plus I might get repopped by V1 if I just call)?

Is this a raise (shove to get V1 to fold and isolate against V2)?

And what do people think about my flop bet. Better to check here? Or is it a standard C-bet.

Last edited by drbeechwood; 03-04-2017 at 08:33 AM. Reason: clarifying the betting
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