Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions

10-08-2016 , 12:04 AM
Bet-f whatever a J might call
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-08-2016 , 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
1/2 Friday night @ casino

Vs are both down on their luck image wise

Hero opens UTG to 7 with AQss

MP V1 calls, HJ V2 calls, everyone else folds

Flop: J♣️8♠️4♣️

H cbets 12, both call

Turn: 6♠️

Hero bets 25, MP calls

River: Q♣️

Anyone betting here? Checking?

Hero checked in game, curious as to others thoughts here (or on whole hand)


I dunno how much we/they are playing but not opening less than 10 utg

Prob not cbetting this flop or betting more if I elect to

Bet signif more on turn as played

Ch/decide river as played, I don't think most 1/2 villains bet anything we beat except naked bluffs and those are not super common
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-08-2016 , 12:24 AM
Both were under 100bb, probably 80ish.

I've been trying out smaller bet sizing, so far I've really been liking it. It allows me to play wider and keep Vs ranges wider. Plus cbets are cheaper, considering how much we miss, especially since the table I'm at is me and 1 V over 200bb, a couple at 100bb, and the rest are < 100bb
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-09-2016 , 03:20 AM
1-3 nl 200 max buy in
Villain: late 30s brought 150 to the table with her, in two rounds since she sat down called a couple raises pf, no show downs starting this hand around 110

Me: 40s grey hair , hasn't played a hand since she sat down, $500+.

I have aspergers so understanding other players thought processes is weakness of my game , +$5/hr last 1000 hrs, I play once a month in fri/sat night games. Play for mind relaxation and a break, goals are to not lose and enjoy myself. Posting since this is confusing me.

Me utg + 1, 6s6c raise to $8
Folds to button v who raises to $16. Blinds fold.

Information I have is the $150 buy in and small 3bet so I call to set mine / fold misses with cbet , re-eval and bet turn if v doesn't cbet.

Flop ($30 after rake/jackpot drop)
Qs 6h 2s
Hero checks
V bets $30

So v has ~80 left, if I call v has less than 1 psb left, read is if v has aa/kk/aq/kq isn't going to fold so I raise her all in and in case flush draw cbet is in her range.

V tanks for a minute then calls and shows 10/10.

After hand she asks dealer how much she can buy and buys in for $200 and is upset that she can only buy in for $200. One orbit later, floor offers 3/5 seat, she takes it and buys in for $500 there.

This leaves me wondering what happened in that hand given the info I had, and now knowing she was bigger limit player waiting for seat.
The basically min 3bet? (Was this a blocker 3bet to get blinds to fold and to see if I 4bet?)
Then the cbet which took her spr to less than 1 if I called, would you have put range same as me?
Then calling all in with 10/10, it's 1-3, how many play on the weekend Vs would my raise not be at least top pair? Or Is her equity with 10/10 enough if my range includes flush draws?
Just forget about the read and view her as bad 3/5 player and move on?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-09-2016 , 03:50 AM
She's a bad player and $110 is not very much money to her because she normally plays higher. There could also be ego involved that she doesn't want to be bluffed, or perhaps she is just trying to get lucky and spike her 2-outter.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-09-2016 , 04:41 AM
Just a quick question: what's your 3betting range against a typical reg at 1/3? Like let's say they raise to $15 from MP over a limper, you're in the CO and you know that they're semi-loose; they do a bit of limping (mainly pocket pairs and suited connectors) but also tend to raise broadways preflop. Assume that there is a royal flush jackpot too ($20k if you flop a royal), so there is some incentive for players to call with any 2 suited broadways.

Are you going to 3bet hands like AQ/AJ here? What about medium pocket pairs like TT/99? And what sizing would you choose, given that you expect them to flat your 3bets pretty widely and rarely 4bet? Is $50 enough?

Also, what kind of hands would you flat? I try to go into "3bet or fold" mode and avoid flatting with broadways, since I expect a chain of callers after I call and I don't want to play 5ways with an offsuit broadway hand, so I like to flat with only suited connectors/gappers and pocket pairs. But what would you do with a hand like KQo or QJs here?

Also, is it too tight to be folding KQo in UTG+1 when UTG open raises to $15 on a full-ring $1/$3 table?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-09-2016 , 05:45 AM
Also, do you consider AJo to be a "better" hand than KQo? I usually consider them equal, like if I'm willing to open AJo UTG then I'll open KQo too. I use the "1 higher 1 lower" rule: replace the A with a K (worse) but replace the J with a Q (better) and it evens out. Combine that with the fact that KQ is connected and thus more likely to make straights. Why do people favour AJo over KQo?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-25-2016 , 11:45 PM
Loose Passive V. Recently stacked someone when V had AA and his opponent tried to bluff him on the flop on a draw heavy board. I have seen V limp/call in EP w/ Ax and call down 3 streets.

2/5 9 handed
V limps UTG ($1150). I limp CO K4cc (covers). Btn limps. SB completes and BB checks.

Qc7c2c ($25)
Checks to V UTG. V bets to $20. I raise to $70. Folds to V. V ships $1125. Hero?

At over 200bbs, the mantra don't go broke in limped pots comes to mind.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-26-2016 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveEV
Loose Passive V. Recently stacked someone when V had AA and his opponent tried to bluff him on the flop on a draw heavy board. I have seen V limp/call in EP w/ Ax and call down 3 streets.

2/5 9 handed
V limps UTG ($1150). I limp CO K4cc (covers). Btn limps. SB completes and BB checks.

Qc7c2c ($25)
Checks to V UTG. V bets to $20. I raise to $70. Folds to V. V ships $1125. Hero?

At over 200bbs, the mantra don't go broke in limped pots comes to mind.


Snap call. Cry about it later if we're drawing dead.

He can have a maximum of 8 combos of AcXc (assuming he limps AJs and ATs). He can have at least 3 combos of JcXc and at least 5 combos of other smaller flushes. He can have 6 combos of sets and up to 9 combos of AcX that have a pair. He can also have the naked Ac or some random spew. Even if you heavily discount parts of his range that we are ahead of, it's still probably a call.

A Lannister always pays his coolers.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-26-2016 , 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6bet me
Just a quick question: what's your 3betting range against a typical reg at 1/3? Like let's say they raise to $15 from MP over a limper, you're in the CO and you know that they're semi-loose; they do a bit of limping (mainly pocket pairs and suited connectors) but also tend to raise broadways preflop. Assume that there is a royal flush jackpot too ($20k if you flop a royal), so there is some incentive for players to call with any 2 suited broadways.

Are you going to 3bet hands like AQ/AJ here? What about medium pocket pairs like TT/99? And what sizing would you choose, given that you expect them to flat your 3bets pretty widely and rarely 4bet? Is $50 enough?

Also, what kind of hands would you flat? I try to go into "3bet or fold" mode and avoid flatting with broadways, since I expect a chain of callers after I call and I don't want to play 5ways with an offsuit broadway hand, so I like to flat with only suited connectors/gappers and pocket pairs. But what would you do with a hand like KQo or QJs here?

Also, is it too tight to be folding KQo in UTG+1 when UTG open raises to $15 on a full-ring $1/$3 table?
So much going on here. I don't have a static range against typical regs. It's situational. Maybe narrow your question a bit.

I will say against loose passives, I don't 3 bet much because they normally have tight raising ranges and are less willing to fold. So 3 betting hands like AJ typically doesn't make sense against a range of ATs+, TT+, AJo+, especially if they're just going to call with the bottom of their ranges anyway. I'd simply fold if I expect the hand to go 5 way or whatever.

I would fold KQo in EP if I didn't feel comfortable raising and playing OOP at my table. That is also situational.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-27-2016 , 11:11 PM
1/3
3 or 4 limps and hero overlimps with q10o on BTN, SB completes and option checked.

Pot roughly $20
10 9 5 ss

Checks to cutoff who bets $20, hero calls (has one blocker to flush) and rest fold.

$60
Ah
Both check.

4h
V checks, hero bets $50.

Am I right to value bet here? V most likely has 10x weaker than my q or a flushdraw as they did not bet turn or river. Unlikely to have anything stronger than 1pair due how action played out. What sizing would you use and how do you react to a raise?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-28-2016 , 03:38 AM
Value bet's okay, yeah.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
10-28-2016 , 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasDonkem
1/3
3 or 4 limps and hero overlimps with q10o on BTN, SB completes and option checked.

Pot roughly $20
10 9 5 ss

Checks to cutoff who bets $20, hero calls (has one blocker to flush) and rest fold.

$60
Ah
Both check.

4h
V checks, hero bets $50.

Am I right to value bet here? V most likely has 10x weaker than my q or a flushdraw as they did not bet turn or river. Unlikely to have anything stronger than 1pair due how action played out. What sizing would you use and how do you react to a raise?
I'm cool with preflop.

Depending on CO tendencies, you could consider a nit fold on the flop (leaning towards that the nittier CO is who is betting a PSB vs the world, obviously leaning towards calling the more stabby he can be in LP).

Turn is either/or. If he likes to bluff busted draws on the river vs weakness, I don't mind a check back to bluffcatch. The stabbier he is on the flop with draws the more I bet this turn myself.

River is also opponent dependent. Against an extremely tricky / aggro opponent who could put us to tough decisions when it's obvious we have a fairly weak hand, the more we can just check it back and showdown (or conversely attempt to induce a bluff by betting small). The more ABC he is, the more we can go for value here (and easily fold to a check/raise). All the draws busted and he can easily put us on one, so I would definitely bet for value here most times.

Glotsofdifferentoptionsinthishand,imoG
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-11-2016 , 11:20 AM
Too tight?

1/2 @ Casino in AM

Hero has general winning image. Been at table for 2 hours, stack has grown from 200 to 450+ (covers all Vs)

V1 immediate left of Hero, MAWG but seems reggish, wearing hoodie with hood up, seems TAG with hands, will limp some IP ($350ish)

V2, SB, 20s/30s BG, raises big with hands, seems passive without

Hero is dealt A♠️A♥️ UTG +1

UTG limps
Hero raises to 12
V1 calls
V next to V1 calls
BTN calls
V2 calls
UTG folds

5 to the flop
Flop (57 after rake): J♠️J♦️6♠️
Checks to Hero who checks
V1 bets 20
Folds to V2 who calls
Hero calls

Turn: K♣️
V2 checks
Hero checks
V1 bets 85
V2 folds
Hero tank folds
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-11-2016 , 11:42 AM
The weird thing about paired Broadway low x boards is people freaking spazz on them man. I take your flop line often and dude people will just go nuts here with like 88. But flop/turn are fine.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-11-2016 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Too tight?

1/2 @ Casino in AM

Hero has general winning image. Been at table for 2 hours, stack has grown from 200 to 450+ (covers all Vs)

V1 immediate left of Hero, MAWG but seems reggish, wearing hoodie with hood up, seems TAG with hands, will limp some IP ($350ish)

V2, SB, 20s/30s BG, raises big with hands, seems passive without

Hero is dealt A♠️A♥️ UTG +1

UTG limps
Hero raises to 12
V1 calls
V next to V1 calls
BTN calls
V2 calls
UTG folds

5 to the flop
Flop (57 after rake): J♠️J♦️6♠️
Checks to Hero who checks
V1 bets 20
Folds to V2 who calls
Hero calls

Turn: K♣️
V2 checks
Hero checks
V1 bets 85
V2 folds
Hero tank folds


I like flop check but I call turn. Don't think a fold is horrible though. 66 full and Jx are both plausible but might slowplay a flop that dry. V1 can definitely be barreling with spades though.

Would be interested to know what you think V1s range is preflop in this spot actually.

Also, to give classic cliche advice, I would make it bigger pre. 15+ has a much better chance of getting HU imo.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-11-2016 , 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6bet me
Why do people favour AJo over KQo?
Many, many more people play Arag than play Krag.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-12-2016 , 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Too tight?

1/2 @ Casino in AM

Hero has general winning image. Been at table for 2 hours, stack has grown from 200 to 450+ (covers all Vs)

V1 immediate left of Hero, MAWG but seems reggish, wearing hoodie with hood up, seems TAG with hands, will limp some IP ($350ish)

V2, SB, 20s/30s BG, raises big with hands, seems passive without

Hero is dealt A♠️A♥️ UTG +1

UTG limps
Hero raises to 12
V1 calls
V next to V1 calls
BTN calls
V2 calls
UTG folds

5 to the flop
Flop (57 after rake): J♠️J♦️6♠️
Checks to Hero who checks
V1 bets 20
Folds to V2 who calls
Hero calls

Turn: K♣️
V2 checks
Hero checks
V1 bets 85
V2 folds
Hero tank folds


15 pre
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 06:56 AM
$1/$2 NL. Eff. stacks $140.

About 9 a.m. Sunday.

H just moved to table within past 45 minutes. V had been involved in some pots. Flopped a set of 4s and bet small on flop. Ch turn. Call river. Later had AK. Raised pre. Ch. 10 high flop. Bet turn and folded to what seemed to be a pretty small all-in raise.

OTOH.

H raises to $15 with QQ OTB over 1 limper.

SB folds. V calls from BB. Limper folds.

Flop 7h 4d 3h.

V donks $45 into $29 pot.

Hero?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibelieveyouoweme$80k
$1/$2 NL. Eff. stacks $140.

About 9 a.m. Sunday.

H just moved to table within past 45 minutes. V had been involved in some pots. Flopped a set of 4s and bet small on flop. Ch turn. Call river. Later had AK. Raised pre. Ch. 10 high flop. Bet turn and folded to what seemed to be a pretty small all-in raise.

OTOH.

H raises to $15 with QQ OTB over 1 limper.

SB folds. V calls from BB. Limper folds.

Flop 7h 4d 3h.

V donks $45 into $29 pot.

Hero?
Sigh fold.

If you call, seems like a spot we have to call it off on the turn/jam turn. Kind of gross being 75bb deep vs live players, but donks that overbet always seem to be the goods.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 07:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dochrohan
Sigh fold.

If you call, seems like a spot we have to call it off on the turn/jam turn. Kind of gross being 75bb deep vs live players, but donks that overbet always seem to be the goods.
I'm also confused with how you wrote your hands. Were those villains hands? your hands?
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 08:35 AM
Call jam turn or fold bow.

Call seems vetter
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 08:55 AM
Seems like he plays his hands backwards. I GII. He could be committing himself with 88-JJ or some combo draw.
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
11-29-2016 , 01:00 PM
I can't imagine folding here

Raising and calling don't see far apart to me. we'll have nearly half of stacks in and he could shut down on some bad cards (but he also could barrel them or have equity on them). In a vacuum, I lean towards GII
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote
12-02-2016 , 08:30 PM
SPR<2-1; Shove
Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions Quote

      
m