3bet can be ok but it depends on table dynamics (ie villain calling frequency, your image, etc).

Higher EV than calling.

Depends on minraiser read, stack sizes, dynamic and our image obviously.

In a vacuum... 3b to $40.

Good discussion. Can see the merits of both arguments.

Villain has just joined the table playing 6-handed at 6am, no reads other than a friend at the table telling me that he's an aggro whale and recommending that I get on his left. V bought in for 2k and we are effective with 1.7k

V raises to 25 UTG
Hero calls with 9d9c UTG+1, good but straightforward reg calls on BTN and passive, fit-or-fold fish calls in SB

Flop (105) Ks9h6c
Checks to V who bets 75, Hero elects to call, others fold

Turn (255) Ts
V bets 150, Hero raises to 400, V calls

River (1055) 2d (final board Ks9h6c Ts 2d) Hero bets 600 (with 600 behind)

I might size river a little larger but seems okay.

I'm wondering about merits of flop raise vs call


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I like a flop raise just because we're so deep and apparently up against an aggro whale who might go to the mat here with AA or AK. Stick a raise in there. Think the turn and river were okay as played.

I almost puked reading that as I just CRAI on that exact hand on that exact turn (except flop had an A instead of a K) twenty minutes ago and got stacked by 78.

1/3. Villain just sat. I've seen him before and know he's no mega fish or anything but don't think he's too great either. Haven't played with him enough to have stronger reads and it had been quite a while since I'd seen him.

200 effective. 6 handed. Hero makes it 13 with 8d8c in the CO. V calls from BB. Flop is 6h4h3d. Hero bets 25. V c/r to 60. Hero? Is this board too wet and the stacks to shallow to fold an overpair here? Or do I just lay it down?

Fold.
You're 50/50 vs 2 overs and a flush draw, drawing close to dead vs a set or another OP.
If we had $150 to start the hand I might just gii.

Although my general thoughts would be that you shouldn't be laying down an overpair when you're significantly less than 100BB deep, this might be an exception just because of the sizings.

You almost potted it on a very wet flop, so it looks like you have a strong but vulnerable made hand (overpair or two pair but not set or straight) and then V c/r you small, which is not a sizing I think he expects you to fold to, so I would expect him to have top 2 or better a lot of the time here.

As mentioned, even if he's not so observant about your sizing and automatically fast plays his combo draws, you're never much of a favourite against his semibluffs either, so you can make an exploitative fold vs his range as a whole here.

My exact thoughts on the flop during the hand were that I might felt AK or AA if my friend's read was correct but I still probably achieve that with a turn raise and V is cbetting so much air here and the flop is so dry that raising loses a ton of value in the long run. Plus the turn was always likely to bring at least some draws that wouldn't fold to a raise.

Live 1/2, Eff. Stacks $200

Hero is viewed as tight and fit/fold post. Ditto for SB. BB is loose & passive, and will play almost anything for small bets.

Relevant history with SB: He has taken two small pots from me where I declined to c-bet even though I had raised preflop. In the first one, he bet a flop of three small cards after I checked and then I folded. In the other, I was the button and I checked back on the flop, and then I folded to his turn bet. Those pots were three handed, the other player folded each time as well.

I have not been in any situations that looked bluffy or unusual since he joined the table.

Hero opens with AJ in MP to $15. My standard open raise size with this holding and position is a little smaller but I was just changing it up this hand.

The SB and BB call.

Flop, 3 handed, $40: K83

SB bets $15, BB calls, Hero raises to $75.

My reasoning for raising is that my implied odds should be poor and I don't think SB is continuing without at least AK, and maybe not even with that. BB should not be strong here.

Look good? I'm reluctantly calling a shove.

Idk. They're giving you such a good price to draw. You have position. You can stack a lower flush when you hit. Stacks are short enough that you should still get the money in when you do hit.

in general, I like being aggressive with draws, but I'm not sure this is the time.

I like it. If you're not folding to a shove, why not make your raise a bit bigger, say 85, so your opponent knows they have no FE.

Good points. Thanks for the feedback!

2|5, most stacks are $600

Hero opens 99 UTG to $20 and +1, CO and BB call.

Flop ($80):
8s6s3c
Hero has no spade, bets $60, CO jams for $210, I call closing action. Villain is older but has been semi-active. Haven't been at the table long enough to develop strong reads. Standard?

I feel like it is but I'm in a minor downswing and just want to make sure.

it's a snap call

I thought so, which is why I posted it here. I felt silly to even ask. I was just making sure I'm not losing my mind.

Really? A snap?

If we give V a range of AKss, AQss, AJss, ATss, A9ss, JTss, QJss, T9ss, 33, 66, 88, 99-JJ, 54ss, and 86s we're a solid 3:1 dog. What else do you think the has in his range here?

Like, if we have AA/KK here without spades) I think this is a pretty easy snap call, but the lol factor of older dudes seeing safe flops and piling it in with 99-JJ of often enough that I like a fold here.

How are you giving him 86s without adding in a whole lot more of the FDs (KTss+, one and two gappers?)

We can, but they don't really change our equity all that much.

If we give him a much wider range of almost all the XXss hands out there, with the same rest of the his range

33, 66, 88-JJ,86s, AKss-A9ss, KQss-K9ss, QJss-Q9ss, JTss, J9ss, T9ss, 54ss, 53ss, 97ss, 75ss, 43ss.
We are still a 70:30 dog. Granted, that makes is pretty close (but still -EV) but I think snap calling here and chalking it up to a cooler when we lose is bit optimistic. I think it's pretty close and might be a -EV call depending on what this 'active' guy has actually been getting aggressive with.

Like if he's been calling a lot pre flop and ck/folding post then some might peg him as active, but his cram the flop range is pretty strong.
But if he's been raising some pre flop and cBetting some / folding some and he's been seen barreling with air or making weird min-raise with top pair type hands then it's likely a snap as even a few combos of 8x will push this pretty clearly into call territory.

We are getting exactly 70:30. Spot is def closer than I thought tho.

By snap call, I mean in game I'm always snap calling. However, the EV of the call may be modest. (Also, tanking for than a few seconds and then calling and winning here is so crappy for our image.) Why always snap calling? Because we need some rules of thumb for these types of decisions. Here are two:

** 46BB effective, we flop an overpair, no str8 or flush on board, not against a nit, we've put in 16BB, not folding, ever.

** 2.6 SPR, we bet 3/4 pot with overpair, no str8 or flush on board, non-nit shoves, not folding, ever.

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Call decision is $150, total pot will be $500, so we need 150/500, or 30% equity.

Against the range IR2M gave, we've got 23%, so a call would be (.23-.30)*500= ($35) EV

How about a made hand range of JJ-88,66,33,A8? 36%, so call is +$30 EV

How about JJ-88,66,33,A8,K8s-86s? 48% or +$90 EV

Great flop for 77! JJ-66,33,A8,K8s-86s? 52% or +110 EV

So, to reword my answer.....

I'm never folding to a non-nit here, but if you think he never has A8o in this spot, it could be close.

Also, Hero is in S.FL. They are all older dudes.

Guy "pretty active", playing 46BB, is overcalling A8o all day imo. It's a gin flop for that hand and stack size and most of deck is scary for him on the turn. Easy jam for active Villain.

1/3 NL, couple of limps (1 pro, 1 terrible fish), I $20 in the CO with AKo, the Button who never gets out-of-line and plays his hands face up *min*raises to $40 leaving $60 behind, the pro folds, the terrible fish calls with $100 behind.

Hero?

Getting 5:1, just call and spike an A/K and possibly stack fish, probably win nothing off of 3better although poor RIO if he has what I'm blocking?

Just jam, I've got to have more than my fair share of equity plus added bonus of most likely a side pot against fish?

Nit fold as it's simply too likely I'm up against what I think I'm up against, or am I being far too MUBSY with lol 33bb stacks?

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