grunch @ Honey Knuckles

Hand one, so you got ballsy enough to try and build a pot when you had the board crushed, why did you wimp out? Don't mind smoothing the raise OTF, but you bet-sizing on turn and river are awful. Either lead for near PSB's or c turn to see what he'll size for you and evaluate whether you need to c/r turn or can wait till river. Def want to set up a shove here. Lots of value lost.

Hand 2, if he is that laggy and you think your hand is best, let him value cut himself. c/c turn and c river. Chances are when you call turn he won't be able to continue on river. If he does, re-eval.

grunch @ playertee (first hand)

You have 180 behind now, or after you call BB. If your shove will only be raise of $70, it won't stop anyone who was coming anyway, and might even look bluffy. If it is $180 on to of the $110, I prob push anyway, but if the fish are gullible, maybe not. Look left and see if anyone's cutting out a call.

Grunch @ kolb

Yuck! Prob a fold, but in game I prob call and shove a non-flushing turn.

It would be a 70$ raise, I had 180 before making the call...i just noticed they fold to my shoves as my image is kinda nitty, but my call looked like a tilt call or me being dumb...most the fish were gambling degens...results will prove me right lol

Grunch at playertee hand 2.

I like a c-bet here, but make it a bit smaller than average, as calling on a paired board tends to be binary, rather than elastic. I go $30, and shut down if called unless I improve.

yeah, this game is so much easier on the forums.

Even though we're getting 3:1, I'd fold. None of our outs are clean, plus spade J/T/6 might kill the action even if we are good (which we still might not be). I'm cool with setmining preflop; we didn't hit and I don't think this is the draw we were looking for. BB is showing strength betting pot into the world (he betting to protect his hand) and woman probably has an overpair (or at very least overs / nut flush draw; too much strength to think a shove has much FE, IMO.

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Do you think, as played, I could fold to the shove? Not enough TP + diamond draw, sets, baby flushes, two pair, bizarro bluffs in range?

Still interested in what your plan would be if we call (i.e. how exactly do we get away from this hand?). 3way, $120, effective stacks at $290. I guess if it goes bet/raise then perhaps we can consider folding (???). But what do we do if ****** checks and villain bets $75 on a blank turn? Are we folding? Shoving? If we call, pot will be $270 and villain will have $215 left. We're planning on folding to a 3/4 PSB shove on the river?

lol so true.

When you play a non-nutty flush draw hand, you need to play it with caution. It isn't to say that because you played it pre, if you hit flush, you should always stack off.

I could probably fold flop given the action, and I could probably fold turn had I flat the flop. It's hard to say without more information, but these are definitely spots where we should be able to fold with the right reads.

Btw, there are always clues on villains. For example, there are players that would never stack off without nutty hands, and then pot odds really doesn't matter as much as long as he has significant stack in front, because he's never shoving it with a hand less than 4th nut.

In a limped pot with mucho BBs, I could definitely understand not going broke on this hand.

But I'm still not convinced it's possible with effectively 65 BBs (due to straddle) plus a preflop raise.

Interesting hand from yesterday, not sure if I maximized my value on this flop.

SB is an internet pro, currently in the U.S. between overseas grinding trips. Is a consistent winner in this game. Generally plays straightforward, have seen him float gutshots with an overcard a couple times but usually doesn't get out of line.

2/5: Hero ($400) is dealt KQ UTG

Hero raises to $15, MP calls, HJ calls, both blinds call.

FLOP: K Q 2 (pot $70 after drop)

SB checks, BB bets $25, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $85, BB folds, Hero ???

Are you guys flatting here and hoping for villain to fire another barrel, or making a small raise to set up a shove ott?

i think you need a great read on your opponent to fold here.

there are plenty of players who will make this move with the A

the problem with flatting on the flop is you could be ahead and up against exactly the Ax and then a fourth diamond comes and you have to muck.

well his line looks like JT, urs look like AK...
I would call his raise, and shove the turn

What's your plan if the turn comes A, J, T or 9?

I'm shoving any non A,9 turn...might call turn, fold river depending on his sizing...
I really believe the river is the truth street...he knows u can't take that much heat with 1 pair hand so he will for sure double barrel the turn...once u call, he will check the river, and I think u should check back because he wont call with worse...if he was a fish, i would just shove reraise the flop...

this is 22

Nah, I ended up reraising to 180 and folding him out *facepalm*

+1

fml. I might have already asked this question: How often do you you look back through your log or even right after a session and say what the bloody **** happened?! Did this really just happen? It's like clockwork, once a month I absolutely get slaughtered for ~3BI by either running bad or making questionable plays. Is this normal? Is once a month normal? I play 90-140hrs a month btw.

That's alot of hrs! What's ur std deviation in bbs?

~132bbs

That sounds about average, do u play very long sessions?

no not at all, the games aren't good enough to play long sessions. Average session is ~5.5 hours. For example last month I play 33 sessions for 117.5 hours

well ur variance isnt too high...i guess u just make mistakes...