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Old 05-09-2010, 12:29 AM   #1
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NLH 1/2

Hi, i dont remember all the details exactly and my english is not good, but ill try to describe the hand with all the relevant informations.

10 people are playing

Hero has AA(no hearts) and its on UTG+1.. he bets $12
villain1 calls in MP
villain2 calls LP

flop comes 3 5 7 with two hearts and the pot is with $39

Hero bets $30
villain1 shove for around $140
villain2 calls (he has a little bit less then $140)

what should the Hero do ?

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- villain1 is new at the table, and probably is one the first hands he got involved
- villain2 is a loose player, straddle often, not scary money, and its always saying that the game is cheap.. this kinda of things...
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Old 05-09-2010, 01:45 AM   #2
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Re: NLH 1/2

That looks like a pretty classic line for a set (villain 1) and a flush draw (FD) for villain 2. I fold pretty easy here.
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Old 05-09-2010, 04:00 AM   #3
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Re: NLH 1/2

Call and dodge 1/3 of the deck. I'm worried about villian #1, but the possibility that they could overplay 8's-Jacks here makes this a shove. You could also be up against two flush draws here.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:11 AM   #4
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Re: NLH 1/2

I'd fold. You're either behind or dodging a ton of outs between the two.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:16 PM   #5
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I'd fold. You're either behind or dodging a ton of outs between the two.
when are we not dodgin outs .... Oh ya like never I agree with this is a call I can find plenty of scenarios were villain one overplays 88 thru kk and villain two with his comments can have all kinds of flush/straight draws and even a naked 7
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:42 PM   #6
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Re: NLH 1/2

Fold, I don't think V2 is calling with just a single heart after a bet and a shove.

You could maybe call V1 if it were just you and him, but not with V2 in the pot too.
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:20 PM   #7
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when are we not dodgin outs .... Oh ya like never I agree with this is a call I can find plenty of scenarios were villain one overplays 88 thru kk and villain two with his comments can have all kinds of flush/straight draws and even a naked 7
You're misunderstanding. In this spot you're either behind or dodging a ton of outs because the hands we're beating that get it all in here generally are combo draws, which we are flipping with. In other words, Ah4h, 9h8h etc
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:37 PM   #8
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Re: NLH 1/2

This is a pretty easy fold imo
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:45 PM   #9
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This is a pretty easy fold imo
yup.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:06 PM   #10
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is it +ev to call if one guy has overpair and the other flush draw ?
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:10 PM   #11
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is it +ev to call if one guy has overpair and the other flush draw ?
Yes, the FD is only going to hit about 30% of the time, and the over pair only hits a set about 8% of the times.
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