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Old 05-27-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

Hero ($800): 20yo white male, has been active at the table, but my villain in this hand has only been at the table for a few orbits. May not notice much. I've gotten my stack by playing decently, haven't really shown down many hands. I seem pretty LAG, but I'm actually not playing that aggressively.

Villain ($300): 50-60yo white male, sat with $150 and doubled up early by slowplaying a big hand and getting paid. He had Kings and opened and bet 3 streets and won or something to that effect. He seems like a standard tight-ish ABC old white guy so far.

BTN ($500): 30yo white male, is new to table but is friends with another guy at the table and they play the same. He isn't bad, but has taken to minraising me a bunch with medium strength hands as a way to combat me cbetting a bunch. I folded a few times early to this move because I didn't know that was what he was doing. After I realized I saw him do this with 5J on 567.

Other stacks at the table are probably deeper than most, at an average of $350 I'd guess.

Preflop: Table has been limpy preflop and really only 2 people have been opening preflop with any frequency. I'm in CO (K6) and the blinds are $750 and $300 deep respectively. There are 2 limps to me, BTN limps, blinds call and check, we go 6 ways to the flop. I haven't been limping a ton, but didn't really like isoing because of the specific limpers in front of me.

Flop ($12): 665

4 checks to me and I bet $15. BTN raises to $30, SB folds, Villain raises to $60. I debate my options, but 5bet calling seems really disgusting for $300 and 5bet folding seems miserable too. I flat, BTN folds (I'm not surprised).

I don't overbet flops with a ton of frequency, but I'd do it here pretty wide and like doing it here. This is obviously one of the stronger hands I'd have here. Because of stack depths I think the big bet is ok.

Turn ($162): 2

Villain tanks for a bit and sincerely looked like he was going to shove but ends up checking. I think for a bit, label the spot WAWB and genuinely discount his ever having a draw here, and check.

River ($162): 8

Villain snap-announces $100 with ~$140 behind. Hero calls.



Questions:
-Should I be looking for more value here vs. his range? Flopping full houses is difficult, and I beat most other 6s.
-If he shoves the turn here, am I calling?
-The flop should never be anything other than a call/reevaluate right?
-If I bet $75 OTT, I can always shove the river. But if I bet $75 OTT, I can't fold to his shoves OTT or OTR. Is that ok?

Thoughts?
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:09 AM   #2
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Re: Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

meh.

you could prolly just stove his range based on how much 6x you think he limps. obv it's a highish variance spot with no real reads, but for the most part i end up calling off here and hoping i didn't miss value when the cards are over.

he certainly seems strong, but a lot of bad players will play any 6 like the nuts here.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:13 AM   #3
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Re: Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

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Hero ($800) I seem pretty LAG, but I'm actually not playing that aggressively.

Villain ($300): 50-60yo white male, sat with $150 and doubled up early by slowplaying a big hand and getting paid. He seems like a standard tight-ish ABC old white guy so far.


Turn ($162): 2

Villain tanks for a bit and sincerely looked like he was going to shove but ends up checking. I think for a bit, label the spot WAWB and genuinely discount his ever having a draw here, and check.

River ($162): 8

Villain snap-announces $100 with ~$140 behind. Hero calls.



Questions:
-Should I be looking for more value here vs. his range? Flopping full houses is difficult, and I beat most other 6s.
-If he shoves the turn here, am I calling?
-The flop should never be anything other than a call/reevaluate right?
-If I bet $75 OTT, I can always shove the river. But if I bet $75 OTT, I can't fold to his shoves OTT or OTR. Is that ok?

Thoughts?
Considering only 34, A6, 56, 68, 62 and 55 have you beat (Villain is b/b so there are many other 6xs in play), I prefer a value raise on turn, so you can play for stacks on river, but a c/c and c/c line on turn and river is not horrible. Since Villain sounds a little nitty and prone to slow-playing, I don't mind just calling river. To be honest, the major leak is limping c/o with K6s, it's a hand with plenty of problems and not much joy.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:15 AM   #4
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Re: Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

grunch

OTF-I usually don't like flatting 4bets OTF but I don't mind doing it here, especially if your read is that he will only make this move with trips or better. You are maybe looking at a range like this which you have ~42% equity:

5c5h,5s5h,5s5c,6s4s,6s5s,7s6s,8s6s,As6s

OTT-I like the check. You have 40% equity at this point based on the above range.

OTR-that card could have filled him up and now your equity is about 25%. Villain bets 62% pot. Based on the range above, it's a fold. If you can add some fluff hands like overpairs or FDs to that range, it's definitely a call.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:06 PM   #5
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Re: Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

Was Villain in the blinds? if so, why can't the villain have every 6X combo here.

Vs a cold 3bet on the flop with his turn check looks like every 6x and boats. I would def bet the turn and fold to a check / jam. I expect hands like Q6s/76 not to ever check/jam after getting called on the flop. but 56 would play that way.

After i bet the turn and get called, i'm jamming most rivers. If the board comes with a 4str8 on the river, i'd not jam b/c its too hard to get called.

Also, i doubt V ever has a str8 here, due to his flop play.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:05 PM   #6
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Re: Line check: Flopped trips in limped pot, NL1/2

I raise the flop. BTN could have raised your flop bet with a wide range, some of that range are draws. I don't want him being able to call $30 more getting like 5:1. The other opponent in the BB(?) who re raised the flop, I think he could be making the flop reraise with 6x, 55, 56, strong draws, and maybe some other random stuff. We can face BTN with two bets, likely get the pot HU and I don't mind getting in 150 bbs with the 4th strongest flop hand vs. the BB.
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