Originally Posted by quesuerte
I reserve limping with anything other than small PPs to tables where there are people I'm desperate to play pots with. I think people often fail to distinguish enough between people who are just too loose passive but have some card sense and people who will make huge spastic mistakes in half the hands they are in. If I can limp 78s when they are in the game and not be exploited by other players then I'll do it.
Its all about understanding the table dynamics and targeting the right villains. I absolutely love limping SCs in multiway pots with terribad passive villains.
If you have the implied odds, getting 30:1 or better on your money, then this is insanely profitable IF AND ONLY IF:
#1 you're at a passive table that doesn't punish limpers
#2 there are passive players that price in all manners of draws post flop
#3 calling stationy players that chase and don't fold made hands when OBVIOUS draws hit
#4 weak tight players that fold to semibluffs, scare cards, etc
#5 you can distinguish between #3 and #4
#6 limping with hands that play well in multiway pots
#7 limiting your limp range to SCs and SGs (suited gapers) only
If I can find the above table, I love to limp with Axs, 63s, 64s-KQs, and baby pairs.
The reason I love 63, 64, 65 is because when the board makes a low wheel like 5 4 2 you can stack A3, or even better, when the board runs 5 4 3 2, you can stack multiple bottom Ace straights with your 6. I love shoving in that spot and having th efish call and say, "I had the straight, I had to call
The problem most limp callers face is they limp too much with offsuit garbage. If you add offsuit connectors and gapers in your limp call range, then you will be entering way too many pots. The other problem most limp callers make is that they don't ditch their hands soon enough and peel off too many bets trying to improve their hands.
Lastly, another reason many limp callers aren't profitable is because when they do hit their hands on the turn or river, they go for the good ol check/raise and surprise surprise, villain checks back and they lose all sorts of value.
Add all that up, and THAT is why most EP limpers bleed money.
But if you know how to adhere to #1 - #7, then you can profitably limp from EP.