I have about one month of history with this V. I've been beating him up pretty good playing a Tight Passive game. The first hand we ever played, i sucked out on him for 60 big blinds. He had 83 on a 1083 board and I made higher two pair. He just made the jump to the bigger game. He usually plays 1/3 and has not been a consistent winner from what i could see. He is a 20's Asian guy from China that plays a LAG game and i think a bit too aggressive. If he brought back the aggression a bit, i think he would be really tough to play against.

Previous hand with V this session:
Hero: A10hh, HJ (520), V btn (270ish)
Pre: hero open 20, btn, sb, bb call (85)
Flop: 1073r ck to hero bet 50, v call, everyone else folds (180)
Turn: 9 hero bet 125, V goes all-in for 191 total
River: 4
Villain - J8o - Hits straight on the turn and i paid him off.

Here is the actual hand i would like some feedback about. Feedback everywhere appreciated and please let me know if i left out any info.

Hero KsKc in HJ, V (SB) effective stacks (500ish)
Pre: H open for 20, two callers. Sb and BB
Flop: 1086cc check to hero bet45, v raise 120, hero calls
Turn: Q v leads 150, Hero?

If we think we're ahead OTF, then I don't see what the turn changes. You have a month of history with V... how often does he raise bets with bluffs? Is this part of his spew? If so, then we're looking to check/call this down. If not, we should consider folding flop. Based on the previous hand, he got aggro when actually connecting... prior to he was just passive. The first hand where he had bottom 2 OTF, did he raise flop? If so, he might just be sticky, but only creates action when he does have something.

@QuantumSurfer turn changes a little as J9s gets there and could be a semi bluff for a LAG.

Either way this villain sounds really bad. Kc is a card we prefer not to have since villain can bluff a hand like KcQc KcJc. I prefer to just get it in on the flop for <100bb. But QuantumSurfer makes a good point in that if we have so much history we should have some reads on bluff tendencies. The two HH you provided, villain raised when he got there/had it. How often does villain bluff raise or semi bluff? Does he have QJ here or clubs?

If he also bluff raises a lot then I prefer to get it in on the flop

Yes V definitely has bluff check raise in his range. He did raise with bottom 2. Now that I think about it, I have seen him call with a lot of 3rd and 4th best.

If I gii on the flop do I risk losing value? I was worried if I shove flop, I only get a call if I'm beat. All sets and 10-8 in his range imo.


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You guys have all made really good reads. I think this v x/raises with air or monster. Seen him check call with flush draws mostly. But now that I think about it with your questions. Flush draw could have been possibility but didn't expect that OOP.


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I check back the flop

If I am calling the turn I'm only folding on the LOL worst possible river cards

Do you think that's the most optimal play vs lag? I think I'd rather check turn than flop no?


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That makes sense. What would you do as played?


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B/F is the most superior play on this board. Tons of hands we can get value from. If V exploited us this time, he made a good play. KK doesn't want to play a big pot here, we can't stack off unless V is a maniac fish.

The way to protect against getting c/raised to death is to raise in late position with hands like 97, where we could be sitting with the nuts or a big combo draw.

Not saying hero is doing this, but if he is playing too tight of a range, then it allows aggressive Villains to attack on boards like this, knowing that they can get you to fold your entire range, other than TT or AK-AJcc.

But there's no shame in folding KK here. This similar V probably wouldn't be able to fold an overpair in this spot, and it's doubtful you folded a hand that was even an equity favorite.

I bet flop and I'm torn between just jamming the flop or calling and jamming turn. I think the latter is probably better.

Thanks for the replies and sharing your thoughts.

I ended up jamming turn for 340 total. My thought was that if I called here, i was calling pretty much any river. I didn't want to lose any equity thinking that i've seen him spew off with enough draws and the $150 turn bet was actually really small for him. If he had 2 pair+, he would make a bigger turn bet. I realize that it sets up an easy river shove betting $150 now with about $190 behind but it just didn't exactly make sense to me. Happy for thoughts on this logic as well.

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