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KJo in CO, too loose? KJo in CO, too loose?

08-20-2017 , 08:43 PM
No offense, but what exactly are you going to do on the river besides call? Seems like a silly question. I'd give you more advice but I think the best advice I can give is to be a bit more confident in your decisions.
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08-20-2017 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrmmmm
No offense, but what exactly are you going to do on the river besides call? Seems like a silly question. I'd give you more advice but I think the best advice I can give is to be a bit more confident in your decisions.
I appreciate that. This hand for me encapsulated several questions for me as far as my game. First being whether opening KJo in that spot was too loose, second a line check on my turn check, and third if I should feel ok making that call on the end and I think I've picked up a lot of things to think about on this thread.
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08-20-2017 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ahsfl
I appreciate that. This hand for me encapsulated several questions for me as far as my game. First being whether opening KJo in that spot was too loose, second a line check on my turn check, and third if I should feel ok making that call on the end and I think I've picked up a lot of things to think about on this thread.
Well, even those questions I feel are a bit weak. It seems like you are asking them because you're not sure of yourself and I think that may be a mistake.
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08-20-2017 , 09:05 PM
I know that I'm not a donk but beyond that I'm unsure. I've got from what I've seen in win rate post an unsustainable win rate in the game I'm in but it doesn't seem that I'm getting hit with the deck so it then leads me to wonder if I'm getting lucky making some bad plays if that makes sense.
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08-20-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ahsfl
I know that I'm not a donk but beyond that I'm unsure. I've got from what I've seen in win rate post an unsustainable win rate in the game I'm in but it doesn't seem that I'm getting hit with the deck so it then leads me to wonder if I'm getting lucky making some bad plays if that makes sense.
You're probably playing well against your competition. If you were against tougher competition, you'd probably pay more for your mistakes but you're not playing them so like I said...
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08-21-2017 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
We are not checking as long as we don't get resistance. I'm not saying KJo is a strong hand, I don't like it, but in general in this situation all becomes relative to villain's behavior. If he slowplay some big flopped hand .., well, ..,wtf?.. so be it. We take a note of that and look forward to trap him the next time. We put a X mark on his forehead.

On the other hand, the KJo is not a hand I would call a raise from a competent player from upfront. Without suitedness, most hands are not worth playing. A-K and A-Q are exceptions. But once you get down even to A-J, K-Q or KJ offsuit , the big cards alone are often not strong enough to justify a play by calling a raise. That's my way of thinking, in general, but it all depends, of course, .. wtf?
Your not checking KJ, when you flop nothing? In a 4 way or 3 way pot?



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08-21-2017 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ahsfl
I know that I'm not a donk but beyond that I'm unsure. I've got from what I've seen in win rate post an unsustainable win rate in the game I'm in but it doesn't seem that I'm getting hit with the deck so it then leads me to wonder if I'm getting lucky making some bad plays if that makes sense.
Being unsure, is not a leak. It will likely drive you to look for solid answers of your questions.

Opening KJ from mp, is definitely a grey area. Not sure there is even an answer to it. But do some math, and come up with gameplan.

I believe you can open it from HJ. Even if it goes multi-way. It is easy enough to check/fold flops.

Unlike many. I do not think it will play well as a limp though. So raising or folding.

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08-21-2017 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mikko
Being unsure, is not a leak. It will likely drive you to look for solid answers of your questions.

Opening KJ from mp, is definitely a grey area. Not sure there is even an answer to it. But do some math, and come up with gameplan.

I believe you can open it from HJ. Even if it goes multi-way. It is easy enough to check/fold flops.

Unlike many. I do not think it will play well as a limp though. So raising or folding.

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This as well. I'm a very pragmatic person and the fact that I know all of this poker knowledge is out here that even if there isn't a clear yes or no that I can learn the thought processes and hopefully transfer them to similar situations.
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