This sounds great. I wasn't aware of it. I am also unable to view it.
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Originally Posted by Garick
So how did you happen to get in to investment banking in the first place? Was this before, after, or during your top-end winter sports career?
For those who are not natural extroverts, how do you recommend developing the "guy folks like to play with, even if he wins" table presence? I don't really have any problem with it, but a lot of more introverted people ask me about it, and I don't have anything to tell them except "make yourself be social. You forced yourself to come out of your comfort zone for EV (usually, but not always, in terms of more aggressive play), now make yourself do the same with social stuff. It has at least as big an impact on your overall EV." That may be good advice, but the "how" part is hard to teach.
I know it's been a while, but ... I'm very introverted by nature. Now a days, I'd cite people skills as a strength.
Ultimately, an introverted nature can be a strength socially in the same way not really liking to gamble can be for poker/AP. You don't have a fever for the game. Your self esteem and emotions don't have to be so tied up in it.
Realize, everyone is not just sitting around waiting to pounce on you for some social miscue. And if you make one, it happens, it doesn't matter. Learn to let it go. It's like poker. First time you played 1/2 you might have thought everyone was a pro who was going to soul read you every hand because you blinked or your finger twitched. You took some guy fronting with sunglasses and chip tricks seriously. In reality, many people are just messing around having fun. Few people are really all that good and most are bungling through, making their own mistakes and worrying about their own ish, only vaguely concerned about you as an individual.
I'd reiterate what Squid said about asking questions. It also helps to avoid the burnout squid has discussed.
I've met current and former pro athletes playing poker (even though I never play above 2/5). Fishermen, cops, lawyers, journalists, financiers, people in politics, taxi drivers, rock stars, soldiers and mercenaries... goes on forever.
Almost all of these people like talking about themselves. They have interesting stories to tell. They know stuff you don't know. They could be valuable professional or money making connections.
Sense of humor goes a very long way, but even if you aren't funny, just be Charlie Rose. Maybe have a few canned jokes or brain teasers.
I met a famous research psychologist once and he spent a good 2 hours giving me an interactive overview of his work. A guy who'd been in Iraq told me unbelievably vivid war stories. Later I gave him some pot. He took it for PTSD/sleep, but it was still medical and he hadn't wanted to travel with it. He was so happy, and it felt great. I met my current teammates through poker and they've proven to be great friends. I played and chatted with this cool guy for a couple days and only learned at the tail end that he had been on my fantasy football team. Then he bought a couple $40 pizzas for the table.