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Interesting spot with KK in home game Interesting spot with KK in home game

02-21-2017 , 05:03 PM
1/3 home game, with deep stacks. Hero has been pretty card dead so he is a short stack this game.

Hero In for $400 has ($360) is dealt black KK in Mid position

Villain 1 - In for $1000 has ($700) - falling asleep, and tired. Was drinking and playing pretty wild earlier but has started to sober up and is nodding off. Probably hasn't played a hand in 3 orbits.

Villain 2 - In for $1000 has ($2700) - Hitting a lot of flops, and has played almost every hand. Quadrupled up when he called $400 pre with Ah9h and hit a 998 flop. Game is a little out of control earlier.

Villain 1 - UTG+1 opens to $15

Hero - Mid position - Hero just calls as there has been a lot of 3betting going on behind me, and people are 3betting super light so I was hoping someone would 3bet jam behind me, as it was happening more than 50% of the time.

Villain 2 - CO - just calls unfortunately and we go 3 way to a flop.

AA9

$49

Villain 1 checks
Hero checks
Villain 2 checks

4

Villain 1 checks
Hero $25
Villain 2 folds
Villain 1 calls

$99

Q

Villain 1 leads $100
Hero??

I feel like he has a big hand, maybe Ax and wanted us to catch up. I can't see much he is bluffing with here. Maybe he has a hand like QQ?
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02-21-2017 , 05:10 PM
If we were much deeper then I would really like our preflop plan. However, being that we are not deep, I think I just take the easy route now and 3bet to ~$55 which will setup a trivial stackoff situation postflop on non Ace high boards.

I'm cool with the flop check. Fairly WA/WB apart from the flush draw (but nothing to be overly concerned about 3 handed).

I'd probably bet slightly more on the turn but whatever.

Has the Villain been getting much out-of-line on bigger streets? Our hand easily looks like an Ace. I don't really put him on a flush since I think the flush draw would have bet the flop trying to rep the Ace. Heck, even the backdoor spade draw would have probably bet the flop with air trying to take it down. But Ax/QQ both make sense. I probably fold, but that's probably my most common answer to most questions (which may indicate I fold too much).

GcluelessfoldingnoobG
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02-21-2017 , 06:11 PM
Problem with 3betting to $55 is the hands were going multi way almost every hand which is fine, but if I did flop a big hand people weren't folding flops very often.

This guy that bet $100 is probably not bluffing in this spot, so a fold is probably best
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02-21-2017 , 06:32 PM
If people don't have fold buttons need to fold, but you really should be 3-betting pre-flop. You're too shallow and it allows stack so easy post-flop if this table is really loose. You're basically jamming all flops.

Don't know why you want to risk not doing this. You just described a drunk sobering up and a guy who is calling huge bets pre-flop with A9s. Come on
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02-21-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Problem with 3betting to $55 is the hands were going multi way almost every hand which is fine, but if I did flop a big hand people weren't folding flops very often.

This guy that bet $100 is probably not bluffing in this spot, so a fold is probably best
Hard to see why going multi way if you 3-bet is a problem. Make it $50 and commit generally on non-A high flops. I don't think you're deep enough here to flat a monster pre.
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02-21-2017 , 07:21 PM
well people are 3betting as wide as 77 which I think is a perfect flatting hand, but for what ever reason it gets raised to $80ish at times. I felt as if it would of been 3bet for me over 50% of the time, but I was not fortunate this time.

3betting myself would of been fantastic though lol. I was 3betting a decent amount TT+ and AQ+ but decided to flat this hand which was foolish.
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02-22-2017 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Problem with 3betting to $55 is the hands were going multi way almost every hand which is fine, but if I did flop a big hand people weren't folding flops very often.
I'm typically one for narrowing the field, but there comes a raise size / stack size point where if opponents are putting in enough of their stack preflop we're kinda ok with them doing that. $55 would be a pretty huge 15% of effective stack, and on top of that it doesn't sound like anyone is folding TP on the flop, so going multiway isn't the end of the world here.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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02-22-2017 , 12:19 PM
Agree with the 3! pre crowd because you should expect to be called lighter.

Probably sign folding the river. Villain should bet the turn with Ax and boats+ after the flop checks through, but can't be ruled out. KsQs/KcQc and missed flush draws are blocked. Looks like a binked QQ or slowplayed monster.
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