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10-03-2015 , 04:19 PM
Live game last night, its 1/1 but playing big as the 1/1 and 1/2 tables have merged with usually a straddle and sometimes a double straddle.
The 'mark' at the table has approx £1200 having apparently called a chunky turn bet and getting there and is trying to redistribute his wealth by double barrelling and folding the river when the action was on him first. A reg on his left is waiting patiently, the next guy is isoing whenever possible and i'm next to act.

The call has come from reception that his taxi is here,he's raking the chips in from a pot where a nit has called the £4 straddle and he's made it £100. after the usual dwell up and banter the nit folds AQcc (wtf?) and he shows AA. He's then goaded about leaving and declares one more hand putting 20 singles over the line as a blind bet.
So three callers before him and the blind bet stands,reg and iso man fold.

Action on me,playing £320,five people to act behind,inc two nits, stacks vary from £100-£250.

I'm thinking i should be playing pairs,lots of suited aces,broadways but where does the list stop?
call or raise to hopefully get HU?
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10-03-2015 , 04:49 PM
88+ i'd make it $40
22-77 i'd just flat

AJ+ i'd make it $40
Axs i'd flat

KQ is tough - fold or make it $40 - both are fine
KJ is a fold
KJs is meh.... prolly a call.



There is no reason to go any bigger than $40. No one at the table is deep and $40 is like 20% of their stack. You will get people to fold a huge portion of their range.

Don't try and force action just because he's leaving. Sometimes these players will win if it's their night.

Also don't play bad pre flop if you miss. Since he is about to leave I doubt he will try and bluff you. I'd be attacking the driest boards or good turn cards. Don't make some crazy 3 barrel bluff because he probably won't fold for $320 if he has a hand. I've seen people like this call it all the way down with mid pair.
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10-03-2015 , 04:59 PM
I would shove or raise to $120 with any pair or KTs+/AJo+/A2s+
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10-03-2015 , 05:25 PM
Min raise ATC.
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10-03-2015 , 06:19 PM
Wait so it's full ring and 3 people have limped already knowing that the bet is £20?

Also is this by chance the Grosvenor self deal?
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10-03-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
I would shove or raise to $120 with any pair or KTs+/AJo+/A2s+
£79... As of today.

I liked this range I think probably tightening up to 88+, KQs+ and ATs+ if there's 3 limpers already.
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10-03-2015 , 06:27 PM
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Wait so it's full ring and 3 people have limped already knowing that the bet is £20?

Also is this by chance the Grosvenor self deal?
The dealer said that as he'd acted out of turn a raise before would change the action and he could take it back.
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10-03-2015 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
I would shove or raise to $120 with any pair or KTs+/AJo+/A2s+
seems extremely risky and completely unnecessary in this game.

You realize this is a 1/1 game right?
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10-03-2015 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
seems extremely risky and completely unnecessary in this game.

You realize this is a 1/1 game right?
I thought three people had already called the 20. Reading is hard.
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10-03-2015 , 07:24 PM
So to be clear, 3 limpers and the £20 blind bet is in play, next two players fold and I'm in the SB with 44.
What would you do?
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10-03-2015 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pj2
So to be clear, 3 limpers and the £20 blind bet is in play, next two players fold and I'm in the SB with 44.
What would you do?
i'd call or fold if the table is squeeze happy

you can also look to your left before acting. Many players will telegraph if they are going to play a hand or not.

A chip on their hand is almost always this hand will not be folded.
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10-03-2015 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
A chip on their hand is almost always this hand will not be folded.
Not if I am at your table.
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10-04-2015 , 04:33 AM
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table is squeeze happy
Dec not the case. Two nits and a passive old guy who never puts you in a spot.
I min raised to £40
I just figured that going hopefully HU was far better with 44.
Calling the £20 may well create a multi way pot which is obv no bad thing if I just want to play for set mining.
Does this seem OK?
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10-04-2015 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pj2
Dec not the case. Two nits and a passive old guy who never puts you in a spot.
I min raised to £40
I just figured that going hopefully HU was far better with 44.
Calling the £20 may well create a multi way pot which is obv no bad thing if I just want to play for set mining.
Does this seem OK?
if you think you can get heads up it's fine - but you are turning your hand into a bluff which can backfire.

I like calling because you want this pot to go multiway for the 15% chance of the time you do flop a set you are most likely going to be paid more on average.

If you do raise to $40 you should bet almost all flops except the obvious trash 987 and AKQ type of hands. Ideally you want a Q72 board or set but that's just wishful thinking.
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10-04-2015 , 06:33 AM
So the plan worked, of a fashion😄
It folded round to the mark, who put another £100 in, blind 😳

Fold and lose £40
Call £80 and see a flop
All in for another £280
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10-04-2015 , 08:47 AM
All in. The small blind was 20 and the S-C number for 44 is 82x.
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