Hero (covers) is early 30s WG reg, playing LAG, winning image. Up about $1,000 in the session, and every showdown in a big pot I've had the goods. V didn't see H build up his stack as he's newish to table, though.

V (~$460): Early 30s WG. Mannerisms suggest some level of comfort/competence, and he seems to know a lot of other people at the table. I think I've seen him before in local rooms but can't recall ever playing with him.

V and H have not played any pots together to this point.

V opens UTG to $10. One caller on H's immediate right from loose passive BG. Hero flats 9 9 in MP, might normally 3bet this but I don't know V's UTG open range. Caller in LP, caller on BTN. 5 ways to the flop.

Flop ($50): K J 9

V bets $15. BG on H's right calls. H glances to his left and the two other players in the hand aren't giving any signs of strength. H raises to $85. V tanks and calls, BG folds.

Turn ($235) 5

V checks, H bets $125. I welcome discussion on sizing. Probably could've or should've gone bigger here, but stack sizes are awkward. I felt an overbet shove would've limited V's calling range to hands that beat us, and anything less makes river sizing strange. V tanks, then calls.

River ($485) 6

V jams his remaining ~240 almost immediately after the card hits.

Hero?

I think you played it well, could size up to like 175 on turn. As played, I think river has to be a fold but it's pretty gross getting 3:1. Vs at these stakes just don't bluff the river here though often enough to make it a profitable call.

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Jesus. I mean, maybe raise more otf if raising. I think you have to call riv and hope he has one of those hands that wasn’t gonna ckf so he just shoved the rest.

What's really interesting for me is V's sizing on the flop, 15 into 50 is super small. I don't know how long he was at your table but would be interesting to see how his bet sizing changes depending on his hand.

I like your sizing on the flop. You're right turn is awkward, I might go 5 or 10 more but I wouldn't shove.

River is gross...personally I think in 2019 I'm just going to start folding every time I've been aggressive with a strong-but-not-monster hand like yours and someone leads into me on the river anyway, because I always end up sighing, announcing "I have a set" as I call and then losing to a better hand (obviously barring any history with them). So I guess if I were in your shoes I would fold

Call. Villain tanked otf & ott, thus suggesting he doesn’t have it otr when he instajams. I think we can confidently put stock in this timing tell sequence vs a rando @ 1/3 until he proves otherwise

Call riv, timing tell + set too hard to fold for half pot

not folding. turn bigger

If Ive ever seen a hand played that looks more like a flush, Im not sure when it was.

He made a tiny flop bet....if he had a made hand he would most likely bet more like $40 to make people with a FD pay to chase....He has the FD and doesnt want to pay, but doesnt want to check.

He got raised and tanked...hes calculating pot odds and implied odds.
He tanked on the turn...same reason. Hes trying to decide if he wants to risk that much to river the flush.

He jams when the flush hits.....this is hand reading 101. OP says he has no reads but villain appears to be competent. If this guy doesnt have a flush hes not competent at all. Fold your hand, Sir.

This obviously looks exactly like a flush, which means shrug fold. The only thing that gives me pause is your turn sizing and V’s potential competence. It’s definately possible that V read H’s turn sizing as weaker and decided on the turn to shove the river. Surely still a fold be V absolutely could be exploiting H as H is very rarely raising the flop with a flush draw.

I think the $15 flop bet into 4 opponents may tell the story. Seems unlikely sizing for JJ/KJ/J9, so I’d likely range more toward KK/QTs/FD/Draws + pr combo like Td9d. Maybe AdAx/AdKx.

When he tank calls the flop raise and turn bet, could be considering a raise, odds. KK+/AK are more unlikely when he just flats the flop raise.

Hero line unlikely to be a FD, not that you wouldn’t take that line, more so b/c he’s new to the table. With the river shove, JJ now more unlikely, so probably 8ish combos of hands that beat.

Attractive odds to call considering there are 3 combos of AdKx, but vs. an unknown I’d let it go.

Disclaimer: I don't know what to make of the pre flop raise sizing of 3x from UTG.

When stacksizes are this awkward, I definitely prefer to shove for 1.5x pot on such a drawy board.

I get the stacks are awkward, but they are what they are. You need to bet more on the turn because this is such a draw-heavy board. Make him commit now with whatever he has -- if it's a bigger set or a straight, so be it (and I think you would have found out on the flop). I don't think you need to shove, but I'd go at least $150, probably more.

As played, it looks exactly like a flush, but I'm a station and would probably call. If he's competent, he could easily have the naked Ad.

I'm cool with preflop but I'm passive like that with relatively little reward (current pot) versus big risk (stacks behind).

With already $80 in the pot on this very drawy board I probably go more like $110 to offer poor 2:1 odds. I'm probably getting stacked if he's flopped a better set (which you'd think wouldn't lead so small on this drawy board into so many opponents). ETA: Regarding awkward stacks on the turn, we could also hammer the flop even larger to setup a more reasonable turn shove, especially since so few people fold a draw on the flop (especially a good one like a flush draw that may have a straight draw); and, yeah, we're not just targetting those hands but there ain't really going to be any difference in what we end up targetting once the raise becomes large.

I probably bet larger on the turn, perhaps even close to PSB (ETA: Also don't hate the idea of shoving here either with these awkward stacks). My overall thinking in this spot is that competent villains are likely getting away from mediocre hands like AK/etc. almost regardless of any reasonable bet size we do here. So I simply target the hands that can call. Two pair and a flush draw + straight draw plus possibly even something like an OESD + willing to rep a flush likely ain't folding to any bet, so that's why I lean large.

Gross river and mostly comes down to whether opponent is willing / capable of calling turn with a straight draw to also rep the flush, or whether he can even sigh do this with 2 pair. We only have to be good 25% of the time, so might be a crying call.

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This is exactly what ultimately went through my head. It seems like a suicide play for V if he's not holding the Ad one way or another. And then I figured that the Axdd combos he should have should be limited, given his UTG open position and the Kd and Jd on board. He shouldn't have QdTd given the way the hand played out, and I thought his other flush combos were limited as well.

RESULTS:

Hero tank called. V did indeed have the Ad. He also had the 4d to go with it.

Hero will be overpot shoving turn in similar spots next time.

tough hand. I like shoving turn. always remember that when there is a draw heavy board and you raise big, you also make it look like your on a draw and can induce lighter calls.