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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
When I first started playing in 2004 or so I read a TJ Cloutier and Tom McEvoy book on poker. They felt that Hold Em was a TPTK game. I believe that now NL 1/2 is a set miners (or higher) game. I am usually cautious with 1 pair and try to play smaller pots. Is that what you do in terms of strategy or do you still think in terms of TPTK?
No way TJ would tell you that NL is a TPTK game. It never was. The average winning hand in poker is 2P. This is the minimum and if you got an aggressive table with deep stacks, not even any 2P but the T2P+. If you flop TPTK and have lots of stacks behind what you going to do on one pair? Get involved deeper into the game? Who's gonna give you action in TP? .., oh, I know what you gonna say: Well maybe another weaker TP or a middle pair .., wtf?
But that's not gonna happen. What you got here is win a small pot and if you get any substantial action lose some substantial amount of chips.
TJ is a very very extremely thigh solid player and I don't remember reading in any of his books that TPTK is the game. Unless you got TPTK+nut-flush draw but the TPTK has only 5 outs to improve. So, what you got? - Nothing!
AA wins the most pots but not necessarily the most money unless you lure the monkeys to play for stacks preflop.
Middle Sets make the most money for sure. A set one notch under the flopped top card
T2P is a premium hand too
but
T2P on a JT6 flop could be nasty. You got to be aware what a flop with JT means.
Big cards are really not such a great hand unless they are suited in aggressive games with big stacks. Because when you are in a game where people are playing wildly, invariably somebody makes a good hand. And your big cards are being played normally only in hopes of making a big pair. Well a TPTK is a good hand in some games but is not such a good hand with deep stacks. So if you have an unsuited hand, even if you flop TPTK, you should be cautious with them. If they are suited, it’s a totally different story because of the possibility of making a flush which can totally swing all of the odds, etc. Of course, there’s plenty of exceptions to anything I say, it depends exactly on the situation, but normally if you have for instance AK and the flop comes a K, T, 7, normally in these wild games you don’t continue for stacks with it just in the hopes of catching an ace. Why? Because that might not win even if you have that goddamned Ace kicker.
TPTK is OK hand for me. I don't mind checking. I don't mind calling with a draw. I don't mind folding the goddamned hand. How do you like that?
Last edited by outdonked; 07-27-2017 at 08:27 PM.