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Jeff76 · 06-28-2012, 08:51 PM

This is an insta call.

Don't raise with 22 if you aren't planning to stack off getting 3:1 or better, imo.

kb12345 · 06-29-2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogyong

And yes, I agree this is a good spot to flip over your cards proudly. It doesn't matter that they now all think you're a complete fricken muppet.

I'm guessing your objective is to make profit rather than to make everybody think you're a great player and intelligent person. Just ignore them when they talk about how horrible your play was afterwards.

Now everybody will be prepared to stack off to you with middle pair top kicker because they think that you massively overvalue hands. Also nobody is going to bother bluffing you because they'll think you're incapable of laying down any type of hand. The unfortunate part is you'll probably have to tighten up preflop as you're likely to attract a lot of callers hungry to bust the fish.

Agree, Agree, and Agree again. Thank you for posting this, you have just given me a massive reminder of what i was doing wrong. For some stupid reason this last two week it has got into my head that i want to be "respected' as a good player at the table and it has been the worst two weeks of poker yet, aside from bad coolers.

Will be showing marginal calls, or "bad" calls in the future proudly.

Thanks again for this post.

fold4once · 06-29-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogyong

i pretty much agree with dgiharriss here.

fold4once: on the pot odds issue, you're both right.

Actually, i calculate pot odds the same way he does (and i've had this argument on this forum at least 6 times).

The pot odds here can be expressed in 3 different ways:
As a ratio: 520:140 (same as 3.7:1)
As a fraction: 140/660
As a percentage: 21.2%

Think about it this way. I have 2 black jelly beans and 1 white jelly bean in my hat.

The chances of you picking out a white jelly bean are 2:1 against, 33.3% or 1/3.

Yes, I understand everything you're saying here, but when OP stated:

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Originally Posted by kb12345

IE call $140 to win $660?

I had a problem with how that is phrased. Sorry if I derailed.

stran · 06-29-2012, 02:34 PM

OP seems to think Villain has to have a premium hand to shove $290 into a $230 pot
V can have air to do this against someone he saw lay down two pair but the real wild card here is wether or not it does get to be headsup.

Liquid Cash · 07-03-2012, 08:01 AM

I think you should not raise pre because the implied odds of hitting a set vs that many players is worth it. I think if you ARE going to raise here a BIG raise is the way to go.

I actually said to fold earlier but you can't fold to this shove w/ the pot odds you are getting. I don't think villian is ever bluffing here though because you look very committed and the only worse hand he has is AK.