2-5
I have 8Td on button, 5 limpers, I limp
Flop: Jd7d4c
I've got flush draw and gutshot.
Pot: 30
All checks to me, I bet 25.
V in BB raises to 75.
I've been at table less than an hour, and haven't seen him play any hands, so have no read on him.
Effective stacks: 425
Hero???

It's generally better not to post results. What happened in this one hand isn't particularly instructive and it's really hard for responders not to unconsciously let the results influence their thinking.

Anyway, let's assume he'd raise pre with QQ+ and AK. There are certainly other hands he might raise pre with, but let's keep his range wide.

Flop action makes me think he's not a very good player. He doesn't have an overpair, because he would have raised pre. If he has a set or 2P, bet/bet/bet is a better line. (He's got five people that might call him and having this checked through is not happy-making.) TP is getting decidedly optimistic to c/r here. I can see this as a pure bluff once only the button shows any interest in the hand, but that's a pretty optimistic line.

For normal 1/2 players, I think this is more likely a hand like 2P or a set.

You're behind those and they aren't folding if you shove. That suggests you're probably better off calling and planning to call the turn a reasonable turn bet. You should get at least some more money out of him even if the obvious flush comes in -- definitely if the straight comes in.

I'm not super-confident of my reasoning here. Other posters may have better thoughts.

Welcome to the forum, OP.

This. I took them out.

This is a call all day long. You have no fold equity after being c/r'ed, so a shove is pure spew. He has something he loves, so you likely get the rest of his stack if you hit (esp the straight) so your implied odds are quite good.

Call and hope he doesn't have a bigger flush draw.

I like the flop bet and I would call the check raise here. You'll get paid if you hit the gut shot and hopefully, won't get burned flush over flush. You're getting about 2.5 immediate odds to call and implied odds are great. You can call a reasonable turn bet if you don't improve.

Is not this one of the reasons we like position so much? It allows us to take free cards. Maybe we should take one on this flop by checking?

We've got such a strong draw that I think betting in this spot is better:

• Check raising at 1/2 isn't that common.
• We might get a free card. Generally passive play is pretty common.
• If we get a free card, we're actually making money on multiple callers ('cause our hand is so strong if we make it. Overflushes are possible, but not actually as common as they seem to be.)
• I don't have video, but I swear I have actually seen five people fold to a flop bet. It could happen.

Actually our draw isn't really that strong, is it? Ten high flushdraw and a gutshot, no overs. Definitely not a monster. I'd take a free card here.

I'd just fold to the c/r, you're up against better diamonds or 2p+ pretty much always.

Betting flop is fine as most players lead with TP in multiway limped pots so a bluff is fine. You shouldn't be raised that often.