Hi guys,
I play in a local card room a Btn $5 game (the only one who posts is the button, UTG is the former SB). Most of the time it is a soft game, with a lot of people buying in for $150~$200 and re buying only after they lose all their chips. A lot of regular players, just a few good ones concentrating on fish frying. After some rebuys and people busting out the stacks get bigger and game changes to a more aggressive and hard game.

Villain1 ($560): Late 30s men, regular, used to have a weak tight game but changed to an aggrodonkey tilted style, often limp/shove with TT+/AJo+ and sometimes with trash. Lately he has been CRAI any draw better than a gutshot OTF, balancing it with bottom pairs and rag. Another weapon on his arsenal is 3betting all in 100BB on 3BB raises PF, last time with 23o, before that with AJs.

Villain2 ($1350): Young men, very good and aggressive player, also regular. He has a lot of experience playing against everyone in the card room.

Villain3 ($1200): Old lady, calling station.

Hero ($850): Regular, known to both V1 and V2 as a good and aggressive player.

The hand:
V1 limps $5 UTG,
V2 raises to $25 UTG+2,
Hero flats with AA MP2,
V3 calls and V1 calls.

Flop($105):
J84
V1 checks,
V2 Cbets $55,
Hero calls,
V3 fold.
V1 raises all in $535,
V2 fold.
Hero?

I dont like either flat. IN this type of game, V2 is never folding preflop. You need to raise for value.

Post flop, I also hate the flat on this drawy board, it's what put you in this tough decision.

I have constructed a range for V as follows:

I think this is a call based on these ranges and info given.

As for your flat pre, if you are expecting former weak-tight player to limp reraise, you still need to raise here for value against V1.

As played call.

Can also put some combos of AJ in his range, too.

You forgot to consider he possibly limp/calls 84s and surely limp calls J8o.

Thanks for the reply.

I omitted some important information
V2 will never call a 3bet from hero for two reasons: 3bet on this soft game is too strong and both players don't get into any heads up 3betted pot, V2 folds everything but KK and AA which he 4bet all in, kind of a wolf pack pact.

Also on this hand there are a few sitting out players so we are 7 handed.

So that´s the reason hero just flats the $25 raise

Sorry but I just don't understand two flats with AA here! Why not re raise to at least $50 , likely eliminate two of the extras down to HU?? Or even shove and hope for a goofy caller. No offense meant, but this kind of weak play invites disaster ar lower/mid levels.

So V2 will not call a 3 bet with AKs JJ QQ ever ?? OK hard to believe, but I still think this play invites getting AA cracked too often. Just my opinion GL

3bet pre

/thread

(you need to 3bet more if your 3bets get too much credit. also only flat with AA if stacks are way more shallow than this...)

so ya 3bet a wider range so you can easily 3 bet here

Grunch:

Pre- Atrocious flat. If you're not 3 betting in this game often enough to have a range wider than KK+ then you need to change things up. I'm assuming that's why you flatted. In any event, 3 bet this to $100+

Flop- Raise the original bettor since you're underrepped so far. As played, snap it off based on your V info.

I don't mind flatting a raise w aa pre sometime. But its villain, image, and table dependent.

As played snap call and hope maniac villain didn't flop something nastyier than a draw.

3b pre, raise flop. As played fist pump call?

yeah, i actually don't mind the flat, given the image of V1, if V1 4bets, perfect spot for us (which OP states V1 is very capable and has done so in the past)... 3bet isn't wrong either imo...

easy call as played though given v1's image

Easy call given your description of the guy.

3bet pre

Thank you all for the replies.

I agree that 3bet PF would be the standard play, but given the situation and the other opponents I decided to flat.

Grunch

No offense, I find it odd that you call yourself a good aggressive player in a 2/5 game when you play AA as passively as this.

3bet preflop to 70-90, raise the flop. Hell, just raise somewhere during this hand. As played did you not read your vil description? Call!!!

Flatting preflop in this spot on this table is terribad. You put yourself into a super high variance spot where you can't narrow your opponents range because you misplayed your hand and underrepped it. Mathematically, given the villain's description a call is probably the correct play but because the hand was misplayed so badly I may just fold to punish myself for sucking.