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AQs on the button v very aggressive player AQs on the button v very aggressive player

10-30-2014 , 09:20 PM
Good day to you all.

We're playing 1/1 right now.

So the young villain in question is a girl in MP, with approx 120 behind. This girl is crazy - she calls wide, and raises BIG with good cards and bad cards. I'm talking raises to 16 (16bb!) with cards like K9.

The hero, has a relatively tight image, nothing too crazy, only been at the table for a couple of hours. 150bb eff.

Now, there are several mistakes I've made with this hand, at pretty much every stage (if anyone disagrees with me I'd love to know why), but I want to know what I should have done differently at each stage.

Villain raises to 13, and it folds round to Hero who looks down in the big blind to see AQd. Now normally, in this situation I would always reraise. In this case I didn't because (a) the villains range is so wide and I'm likely getting called regardless and (b) the raise is already so big.

POT 28

Flop 10s10c3d

Villain bets 25, hero calls (should I be raising here? My logic is I think I'm good here, I don't want to reraise for info, and if I flat call her she will slow down on the turn and river)

Pot 78

Turn Jd

Villain checks, as does the hero (with his nut flush draw and gut shot)

River 4c

Villain ALL IN for 80.

Hero??
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10-30-2014 , 09:42 PM
How does villain respond to 3bets? I could go either way between 3betting or just calling.

"(a) the villains range is so wide and I'm likely getting called regardless and (b) the raise is already so big."

If you think you're getting called regardless I would absolutely raise, for value. And this raise is smaller than the one she made with K9, so actually not that big, no?

As played I call flop and shove turn, it would be such a shame to brick out and lose to a small pair/rivered pair. Give her a chance to fold her equity share. Her checking the turn and you picking up outs is a great opportunity to be aggressive, not the time to be passive imo.

And in this case, on the river, i just fold
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10-30-2014 , 10:12 PM
Play against fishy maniacs is very dependent on the maniac. Is she bluffing multiple streets, is she bluffing river, everything you can pick up helps in these situations. Does her position at the table affect her range here? Does her bet sizing mean anything? Those are the two big ones here.

Preflop, I'm always raising this. AQo is a hand I'm happy to take it down and I would like to be the aggressor on the flop. I don't mind the flop flat because any raise/further betting pot commits you to the hand and you only have ace high. River is a fold unless she has been bluff shoving a lot, because it is so easy for her to be bluffing some random low pair and still have the best hand.
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10-30-2014 , 10:21 PM
Raise pre big. As played turn is an easy ship.
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10-30-2014 , 10:50 PM
Im on board the 3b pre for value and cbet flop and then shove turn.
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10-30-2014 , 10:56 PM
You miss huge value not 3bing preflop.
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10-30-2014 , 11:54 PM
If her range is that wide you can be 3 betting large for value. We smash her range and can get called by worse a lot. Being oop I want to take the betting lead, not calling and being in the dark. I'm assuming we checked flop and are opp. As played im bet committing myself on the turn. We have picked up lots of equity and we potentially have some fold equity vs under pairs.
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10-31-2014 , 12:27 AM
She only has like $100 to start? Clearly this is a 3bet pre. I'd 3bet to $45 or so and shove any flop. If deeper, I'd just flat pre.

Shove flop as played. Only reason to call is if you expect her to barrel bluff turn. No point in giving her a free card by calling when she's that short stacked
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10-31-2014 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackarmin
Now normally, in this situation I would always reraise. In this case I didn't because (a) the villains range is so wide and I'm likely getting called regardless...
The reason you didn't is the reason you should have.

You described how loose & aggressive she is pre, but how about post-flop? That's more important here given the decision you're facing is a river shove.

Last edited by DGMB; 10-31-2014 at 03:02 AM.
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10-31-2014 , 10:02 AM
Post flop she's just as loose and aggressive - in fact, more so. I'd seen her make massive overbets with nothing.

I can see now I clearly should have reraised pre flop, possibly on the flop, and definitely on the turn.

What about the river - should I call? I need to be right about 50% of the time to call this...

[SPOIL] anyway, I folded to her river flush. She tabled A7... Annoying :-/ Id like to know though whether in the long term, and doing the same over 100 hands is the right move...
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10-31-2014 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackarmin
Post flop she's just as loose and aggressive - in fact, more so. I'd seen her make massive overbets with nothing.

I can see now I clearly should have reraised pre flop, possibly on the flop, and definitely on the turn.

What about the river - should I call? I need to be right about 50% of the time to call this...

[SPOIL] anyway, I folded to her river flush. She tabled A7... Annoying :-/ Id like to know though whether in the long term, and doing the same over 100 hands is the right move...
This is why I like shoving flop or 3bet big pre this short esp if you're not sure what to do on later streets. AQ hi also loses to some bluffs (AK hi bluffs and bottom pair bluffs). If she's bluffing very often then call off since she's not repoint much on river

You only have to be ahead 32% of the time to break even on a river call based on pot odds. Ask yourself if she's bluffing at least 32% of the time on river with a hand you beat, then make the call or fold
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