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Old 08-04-2012, 11:46 PM   #1
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AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

4am on a Friday night. This game has gone from tightish when I sat down (mucked overpairs face up to 1 bet) it has changed into a LAGfest, with lots of chips flying around and people getting looked up pretty light.

Villain ($630) is a diminutive late twenties asian male who I've played with ~3 times before. He can play a wide range IP. His true LAG style comes more into play postflop, where he will continue with a large percentage of his hands often double and triple barrelling. He doubled up from a dwindled $400 buyin an orbit ago. He raised limpers OTB with 46o, got 4 calls, checked back a AJ4r, doubled through an ATo on the 6 turn card. He sat down 45 mins ago.

Hero ($750) is a mid twenties white male wearing hoodie and sometimes headphones. Villain has only played 1/2 with me, so his view of me should be a little tighter than I usually am, as, at least in my games, you have to give the average villain more credit at 1/2. I've opened 3-4 times since he's been sitting, showing down only a failed cbet/2barrel with ace high.

Hero is in UTG + 1 9 handed dealt AQ

1 fold
Hero raises to $20 (table std is 20-25, mine is 20)
2 folds
Villain raises to $40
4 folds
Hero calls $20

I definitely think I'm ahead of his minraising range, but I'd like to conceal the strength of my hand vs this villain who will barrel a ton of flops HU. I am open to a raise of $100 or so, but I think a properly sized 4bet here is letting this particular villain off the hook with the top of our range.

Flop A74

Hero bets $40
Villain raises to $80

I chose to lead out because I think a c/c on this board is just way too obv and c/r doesn't accomplish much. If there were even one draw I might do something differently but I think a weak bet would likely induce from villain and hopefully disguises my hand even further.

Hero ???
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:50 PM   #2
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

not a thing?
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:02 PM   #3
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

I think I stll check call the flop, but your line is ok too. Just call now.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:15 PM   #4
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

c/c flop. pot control. with how dry board is dunno if you are gunna get away so keep pot smaller.
i think leading out is 1/2 play saying i have an Ace
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:20 PM   #5
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

c/c flop & turn.... not folding on this board.

is this 2/5 or 1/2? if 2/5 you could just 4b/call pre - but taking a flop is not bad either.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:37 PM   #6
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

So you lead out to induce which villain obliged. You said he'll barrel away so why not let him? Seems to me you are in c/c mode now.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:20 PM   #7
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

leading on this board is not good, what about check calling on this board is obvious?

I'm c/c all hands that I am continuing with on this board including sets and mid pocket pairs. your range is really wide when you check call here.

if your leading you should know what your doing when your raised. im c/c flop and turn and have to re-evaluate vs. a large river bet.

also, when you lead here you are pushing hands out that you beat that continuation bet

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Old 08-05-2012, 04:22 PM   #8
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

I'm a little supprised everyone is saying c/c flop, we just got raised twice on an A high board, If i call flop I am very cautious about AK
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:37 AM   #9
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

The fact that there are no real draws on the board makes a c/c scream that I have an ace to a thinking player, which this guy is. Even though he's way too aggro, he can make good folds.

I think that on this flop vs this villain I'm stacking off almost every time.

I called and turn was a 9 completing the rainbow. I check and he bets 200 w about 300 behind.

Shove now?
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:02 AM   #10
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Dude, folding isnt an option here vs. Lagtard villain IP. c/c all the way and let him barrell off. Easy game.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:07 AM   #11
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

if the villain is that aggro most people stack off and if game is loose enough u probably should have 3bet flop and got it in if u still thought u were ahead
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:08 AM   #12
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

yeah im just being r/o, as i called then checked to him on the Q river and he checked behind.

figuring out how to induce vs particular villains isn't something that 2p2 is very good at helping with - hard to be when you're not at the table.
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The fact that there are no real draws on the board makes a c/c scream that I have an ace to a thinking player, which this guy is. Even though he's way too aggro, he can make good folds.

I think that on this flop vs this villain I'm stacking off almost every time.

I called and turn was a 9 completing the rainbow. I check and he bets 200 w about 300 behind.

Shove now?
If u c/r on that dry flop what do you think he puts you on? You fold out all of his worse aces. Ott you can c/shove and you may get called by worse ace, or u can check and see if he will fire 3rd barrell(if agg as you say he is, he should be barrelling Ak, AJ, A10, air, and sets and 2pr(a9 only thing i see here) otr. Some thinking players will give up on the river and cib, so c/shove ott sounds like a decent line.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:14 AM   #14
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

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c/c flop & turn.... not folding on this board.

is this 2/5 or 1/2? if 2/5 you could just 4b/call pre - but taking a flop is not bad either.
this was 2/5, though usually i play with villain at 1/2

i'd love to hear you talk about when it's right to try to induce.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:00 AM   #15
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Re: AQo in EP 3bet by LAGtard

c/c flop and turn
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