Hey everyone,
I recently was playing a session against a guy who was needling a lot of people and played really loose and aggressive for several hours. I knew if I waited it out, I would catch a hand I could get all in with and probably stack this guy. He had about $200 in front of him and I had $500 in front of me. The game was $1/2 NLH, $800 max pot.

I picked up AQc in position. Villain raised to $20, I called and there weren't any other callers. Flop comes 7c4c2h. Villain goes all-in for $180. Do you call?

Yes

If you like to gamble go for it. he likely has an overpair to the board 88-KK. Maybe not even an overpair so your Ace and Queen are possible clean outs and and club gives you the nuts. You're either flipping with him or you're ahead.

Count your outs. From the flop id say you have about a 60% chance to win it unless he has a pocket pair q's or higher. Then that's stil just under 50%, up against aa then your pretty much just counting on the flush which would be about 36%. But considering how lag he is I would call.

If you don't mind some variance call.

I'm calling in a cash game here, especially against a spewtard that you've been trying to GII with. Sounds like it might be an A7 maybe? Either way when you're calling not all of your outs are going to be clean but there is equity to be had here. Check raising all in would be awesome here but him shipping into you is kind of strange but tho

Uhm.

He shoves 180 into a $40 pot.

Yes?

And we "haz the NFD."

I can't find a call here, pretty much ever.

If he is a spewtard just wait for a better flop. No need to increase variance and flip for stacks imho.

It would be nice to know positions and if you think it matters. Was $20 a standard raise for the villain? Was he raising often from that position (especially important if it's EP).

Assuming he is raising like that a LOT and I mean 40% or more (in the same position) I don't mind calling the AI if losing isn't going to tilt me or otherwise affect my mental state (having to get out the last money in my pocket, etc.)

Doubt hitting our overs is any good. Never calling unless he flips over something like K7 no clubs and I just wanna gambool.

It was a generic thread so I gave a generic answer. And I love a call vs. a spewtard.

Even spewtards usually have something here. Calling is probably fine but it's super high variance so I'm not sure 'love' is the correct word.

Well, what do you think his range is? If he frequently goes crazy and overbet jams postflop, this is a super easy call.

The problem is that the only hands we're ever way ahead of are random clubs, so unless he's a total maniac, this is usually a slightly +EV & high variance call.

so pretty much it boils down to is raise & jam crazy spewtard = call. which from the OP that's what it's sounded like.

Vs a range of AK plus,all pocket pairs and A7,we are a slight dog of 50.8-49.2,add some dominated flush draws and discount sets and yes it's a call.

I think it's really close. I'm not thrilled about calling knowing that Villain could be bluffing with something like AsKc and our call is still -EV.

Making a call for this reason, or even worrying about this stuff, sounds like tilt to me. It doesn't sound like your A-game.

Count me in the group that snap calls.

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People don't understand what a monster this is vs. his range.

Against some spewtard I'm calling here dependent on his plays previously throughout the night

I'm 3-betting pre as well.

The last time someone shipped on me in a near $40 pot was a drunk Russian who flipped over A-7o with A-high being his hand, with no draws.

Depends on how the guy has been playing. I know people who pretend to be drunk the whole night waiting to do something like this and showing up with nuts.

OP needs to tell us what position this guy was in and what his $20 opening range might look like. Just describing him as "loose and aggressive" doesn't give us any meaningful information. I play with tons of "loose and aggressive" guys that never make a play like this and plenty that often make a play like this. If this is a somewhat standard play for this guy, easy call - he's doing this play with a wide range of hands because people are folding to him.

Unless my math sucks, I'm showing we're getting 1.22 : 1 on a call which means we need 45% equity. It's pretty close if he doesn't have a spazz-out portion of his range. It helps us a lot of his $20 pre-flop range doesn't include 22/44.

grunch.

seems like pretty straight forward arithmetic to me. high variance play, but most likely +EV to call getting 1.2/1.

Does Villain have a history of overbetting?

Against 88+, we're flipping. We need to call 180 to win a pot of 400, that's just 45% equity needed, so it's a call at that point. And when we add in flush draw's, we just beat the range more. The only flush draw that sucks is the one that includes the 2c, which is rare. Just A2cc pretty much. I'm calling.

I call that against most. With a spewtard I might be ahead too.

Fair enough, I would narrow his range to sets and OPs though. I think weaker FDs (that haven't already made a pair) is best case scenario, but à rare one.

I dunno mathematically it could still be a call, I'm going to take thebad play and fold though. :beer: