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Originally Posted by 3xMassGainer
Is this thread done or can we continue exploring
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Clicking it back to $160
Or does this work with a bigger stack and yes I’ll be 4b clickbacking with my entire range so I don’t turn my cards face up forcing villain to play perfectly
Does anyone want to entertain discuss this or is this thread complete
The only reason you would choose a smaller size would be if you had established some sort of 4b bluffing range, which, has not happened and rarely is the case in a live setting. If you have a more traditional '1/3 4b range', it's mostly going to be high-frequency KK+ w some AQ+ occupying the worst of it in which case you want to bet more for reasons that should now be obvious, but I will try to elaborate further...
When it comes to sizing 3b+ ranges in 1/3 and 2/5, it really is about what you have established to that point because 3 and 4 bet pots are more rare in these games.
Think about it this way, say you know that some player will cold 4b w AA only, but cold call a 3b with ~TT+/AQs+. For this player, when stacks are shallow, he can elect to 4b AA at whatever size he chooses, and you rarely, likely never, have a +EV call because implied odds are not worth it with fractional stacks in play. Now, as stacks deepen, say toward infinity, this same player would have to start choosing larger and larger sizing if he elected to 4b AA only because implieds sky-rocket as does the possibility that AA will be forced to choose 0EV (fold) at some point later in the hand. If stacks were infinite, and AA was his only 4b, he would be forced to choose the largest sizing possible and his opponent would be forced to fold all but the other AA combo.
So, when deep and deeper, this player is going to 'benefit' from moving AA into that cold calling a 3b range because he has not established any 4b range other than AA. As we know, clearly there is no benefit at all to making less money immediately with the nuts and choosing a strategy so poor that your only option is to make less money with your most profitable hand.
Back to your question, you are not AA only, so you can 4bet, and choose a sizing when 300bb deep that is NOT all-in. However, you are still narrow so you slide the sizing scale appropriately.
