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08-23-2016 , 02:50 PM
2am @ Borgata on a Friday night. Table is playing loose passive with lots of straddles and bad players. We just got down to 6 players when villain joins us and sits to my left. Seems like a whale both figuratively, and literally as in he is a 400 lbs fatty. He is drunk and boisterous. Heard him chatting about losing money at the strip club and now gonna get it back. He's raising many of his hands in the first few orbits if he's the first one in, otherwise mostly calling raises with anything suited or remotely playable.

Relevant hands:
  • Villian raises in LP get 2 callers, 3 barrels 1/2psb on KQ7ss 4x 2x board w/Q3hh loses to stubborn K6cc
  • Villain calls $20 4 way pot with 23cc - Flop A52cc ends up just shoving 500 over a bet of $60 and loses to one pair when he bricks out
  • Hero raises straddled pot OTB to $35 with 85ss villain raises to 105 out of the SB and shows 94off when I fold.
  • Villain in 4 way pot can't let go of AJs after being RR on a flop A76, AI on A turn vs 77 and does not improve

Hero has been playing tight OOP, and loose and 3-betting IP, hasn't gotten caught being out of line post-flop but some might perceive me as a bluffy.

Effective Stacks
Hero(1000)
Villain(650) on his 3rd buyin already in about 60 mins
MP players (500)

PREFLOP
MP weak tight player raises to $15
MP loose passive player calls $15
CO Hero 3b to $55 with A9cc
BU whale Villain insta makes it $105 (I felt he was weak at the time, if he was nutted he would have at least thought about it)
MP both fold
CO Hero reluctantly calls getting almost 4:1 odds

FLOP 933 (pot = $247)
Hero Checks
Villain bets $150

Best flop line? plan for the rest of the hand?

Last edited by Jewrilla; 08-23-2016 at 03:05 PM. Reason: forgot about one player preflop fixed pot size
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08-23-2016 , 03:31 PM
Raising 85s OTB with a straddle is probably minus EV.

In this hand, pre seems like a really easy call. As played to the flop, you have two options, calling with plans to call every single turn, or all in. I would opt for the first option since you have AK-AT reverse dominated. With T9, I'd just shove now.
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08-23-2016 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Renton555
Raising 85s OTB with a straddle is probably minus EV.
I know you are right, but still end up being a button donkey sometimes. I need to do some Tommy Angelo worst hand i'll raise with tables or something.
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08-24-2016 , 11:59 AM
Call. Don't fold anywhere going forward.
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08-24-2016 , 12:59 PM
Pretty happy to c/calldown here. Would lead river if turn somehow checks through, but it won't based on hhs.
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08-24-2016 , 02:00 PM
Did he try to just call with one black and one red?

I'm calling, if he's having fun and willing to gamble maybe give him a speech and jam in his face.
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08-25-2016 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ASLheadwalk
Did he try to just call with one black and one red?
4 greens + 1 red
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08-26-2016 , 02:10 PM
Preflop raise is spew.

Why are we raising a weak-tight player's open when we still have a whale left to act in position on us? Our hand plays much better multi-way then OOP in a 3bet pot. We are lucky weak-tight villain didn't just jam over the whale since he shouldn't even be opening hands that aren't in the top of his range TT+, AK. I'm pretty shocked weak-tight V folded, but now that he did, you are stuck OOP with A9 in a heads up pot. Your whole plan for the hand is not well thought out...

Calling the Whales 4bet is spew. What do we do when we whiff on 2/3rd of flops and will be facing a big bet on the flop out of position? c/c? c/r a maniac with A high? It's still possible that our hand is completely dominated here and there's no gurantee that this V will stack off if an A hits on the flop. Even the dumbest of V's will put you on an A after calling 105 pre so your hand doesn't have the implied odds it needs to call and bink.

AP, we're not folding, so a c/c line is going to be the most profitable.

Last edited by bodybuilder32; 08-26-2016 at 02:17 PM.
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08-26-2016 , 02:32 PM
I agree with bodybuilder32 regarding the PFR, although I don't agree with all of the reasons.

To have a better 3b balance range, I personally stay away from Ace hands unless it's strictly AA, AKs, AKo when there's an agro villain directly to my left. I'll 3b squeeze with multiway hands when the agro player 2b in EP and there's some callers drawn in.

In any case, as it played out, if you're playing the hand it's almost certainly for his stack. If he has a hand like AK or AQ I don't think he's folding it even if you x/r the flop. I'd probably prefer to get it in now as opposed to getting scared when a Q or K peels on the turn and he barrels all-in.
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