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Old 07-31-2012, 09:03 PM   #16
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

I do think there're air in his range, don't know if he plays AK this way, but for 150bb, don't think we're going any where.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:00 AM   #17
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

i have a real hard time b/f flopped trips but maybe im not good enough.

i think you flat the turn bet and eval river.

i know we arent results oriented, but how'd it play out?
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:01 AM   #18
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

Folding flop is horrible unless he is the tightest nit you ever met. I would semi-tank call turn and call river. This will be slowplayed AA and AK far more than a larger 9x hand IMO. Folding to the first raise is a total MUB syndrome.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:00 AM   #19
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

Based on the description of this opponent I honestly think that this is AK a lot. He is absolutely doing it for value in his mind. Here is how he perceives it, he doesn't think you would raise with a 9 in your hand so he thinks he has you beat, especially since you just flatted his raise in his mind you have a worse king or pocket pair. He doesn't understand how raising ak on the flop on this board texture is pretty illogical in position. It sucks bc he does have some 9x's in his range but I think he has AK enough that I'm not folding, his turn sizing really points to this as well, how did it play out? Im also curious..
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:13 AM   #20
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

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Based on the description of this opponent I honestly think that this is AK a lot. He is absolutely doing it for value in his mind. Here is how he perceives it, he doesn't think you would raise with a 9 in your hand so he thinks he has you beat, especially since you just flatted his raise in his mind you have a worse king or pocket pair. He doesn't understand how raising ak on the flop on this board texture is pretty illogical in position. It sucks bc he does have some 9x's in his range but I think he has AK enough that I'm not folding, his turn sizing really points to this as well, how did it play out? Im also curious..
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he simply can't put you on any 9 (except quads) with your image.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:26 AM   #21
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

I think the important part of the decision-making process on this hand is that he almost surely thinks that you have AK....
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:47 AM   #22
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Re: 98hh in MP against button flop aggression

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Folding flop is horrible unless he is the tightest nit you ever met. I would semi-tank call turn and call river. This will be slowplayed AA and AK far more than a larger 9x hand IMO. Folding to the first raise is a total MUB syndrome.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:29 PM   #23
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Based on the description of this opponent I honestly think that this is AK a lot. He is absolutely doing it for value in his mind. Here is how he perceives it, he doesn't think you would raise with a 9 in your hand so he thinks he has you beat, especially since you just flatted his raise in his mind you have a worse king or pocket pair. He doesn't understand how raising ak on the flop on this board texture is pretty illogical in position. It sucks bc he does have some 9x's in his range but I think he has AK enough that I'm not folding, his turn sizing really points to this as well, how did it play out? Im also curious..
This seems about right. Part of the lesson here (I think) is how one's ability can slip as the evening wears on- remember the hand was at 4 am, an important detail. I decided to fold the turn, as I expected him to slow down with AK, having done nothing but nitty stuff all evening. My hand can certainly look like AK, as someone suggested, and since he doesn't have AA, his turn bet looked very strong to me, although I really think if he had a nut hand, he would have bet more to ensure all the money goes in.

However, as this hand caused some level of interest at the table, he answered questions about what he had by hinting to everyone that he had had AK and had thought I had QQ. I think i believe him- fatigue was loosening him up and he was opening up his value range, combined with overly simple thinking about what my hand is.
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