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8 way limped pot 8 way limped pot

04-21-2017 , 05:09 PM
Playing 2/5. 9 handed. Max buyin 500. Effective stacks 1450.
Hero. TAG (1450)
Villain: mid 50s Asian male. LAG. Overbets pot with strong hands and draws. (2k+)

Limps around to Hero in LJ. Hero limps w/ A3cc. HJ and CO limp. BU folds. SB completes. Villain in BB checks. 8 way action to the flop.
Flop 3s2c5c. SB checks. Villain bets 60. UTG+1 shoves all-in for 150. Folds to Hero. Hero calls the 150. Folds to villain. Villain raises to 450. Hero??

Should hero have called or raised the 150?
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04-21-2017 , 06:38 PM
What hands would V have that he checks the BB and then falls in love with this flop?

I'm probably folding to the two raises in front of me for the reason that if we get raised we're in a bad spot, although a raise is a reasonable thought, it crossed my mind too because you have a lot of equity. You could elect to have some gambol and cold 3b the flop depending on table dynamics and if V is agro when betting but slows down facing more agro. You will definitely get called lighter in the future. But if you raise I think you have to call off a 4bet because you have too much equity.


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04-21-2017 , 09:54 PM
Thinks it's time to wager all of your betting units, 300bb is alot but we have solid equity against the world...
I would be gii, and if I get called getting it run twice of your card room will allow
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04-22-2017 , 08:22 AM
I would fold for this amount of BBs in a limped pot.When you stackoff almost 300 BBs in this kind of spots you just run into the nutz with such high frequenzy that i believe you lose money long term doing it. The stackoffranges for this amount if BBs just tightens up, at least from my experience in lots of different games in many countries. Villain just have a made straight or flopped set 95 percent of the time here being a million ways to the flop and no preflopraise.

Sure, you can just close your eyes and click allin here cause you have a combodraw (easy decision right)-but i mean were gonna have to get there at showdown the vast majority of the time cause i dont think your fold equity is substantial at all when he bombs it to 450 on the flop.
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04-22-2017 , 05:51 PM
Call. WTF is with all the wanting to shove all in with draws and no FE.

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04-22-2017 , 06:22 PM
Folding for 150 with a pair/straight flush draw is wtf.
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04-22-2017 , 06:29 PM
Call
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04-23-2017 , 06:04 AM
Pot is going to be over 1000 with less than a PSB left on the turn, villan is going to bet the turn almost always here, and then we have a stupid decision to make if we have missed... Conversely if we do make our flush or straight this may well slow villan down and we won't get paid... Anyway...
The play here is to gii, and then ask to run it twice....Imo...
I hate wagering 300bb with just A high, I hate the variance but I am pretty sure it's the best play here.
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