I feel like maybe a leak of mine is lumpg suited connecters from 56 to kq in middle position. Kq il raise in middle with no limpers or even maybe one, mid suited connectors I will limp regardless of the action. Should I just be folding these hands? Game is really limp with not a ton of raising pf

Yes fold. I'm not even going to discussing balancing your range just so fold them.

What if there are limps in front and you are co or button, limping can't be terrible then? What about in mp with 200 bb deep fish limping in front? You still told?

I would raise all of those hands if stacks are around 150bb average or more.

I play a much wider range than most LLSNL players and I'm drunk so it's pointless for me to tell you what range to play here but what I can say is that you should NEVER limp suited connectors in MP.

I don't limp anything ever. I do raise SC in all positions.

This is a situational thing, sometimes limping is better and sometimes raising is better.

If a raise will get lots of calls then limping is better with medium and low connectors. If a raise will get you 1-2 callers then raising is better. If villains are sticky post flop then limping is better, if they are fit/fold then raising is better. If the game is shallow then limping is better, if deep then raising. If the game is passive and not a lot of preflop raises then you can play from any posistion. If the game is active then you need to cut down your EP&MP range and mostly raise yourself when you enter a pot.

In EP I usually raise or fold, I'm only limping at exceptionally fishy and passive tables. In EP I adjust my range to match how many callers I expect rather then limp. In MP I may open limp at more passive tables. I go back to raise or fold in LP for the steal value unless the blinds are stationary and passive enough that I want to see as many cheap flops as possible.

Yes open limping SCs is a leak. My guess is dropping them altogether from this position would be your best adjustment for now. In deeper games after you've become comfortable playing them for a raise profitably in late position (read: not just playing them fit or fold but generating some nonshowdown winnings) you might consider re-introducing those hands to your o/r range in slightly earlier positions.

I would suggest opening the suited Broadway's for a raise.

When multiple players limp in front I raise the stronger part of this range. What I do with the weaker parts depends on my position and the type of players who have limped. Are they stations, fit or foldies etc. will I be likely to ISO preflop or will it likely be 5 ways to the flop? If there are sticky pay off wizards limping in an overlimp can be ok.


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OK I played same as I normally do yesterday and got owned for £700 (3.5 buy ins) because I kept opening (and light 3betting) weaker suited hands OOP, missing every flop and only slowly realisting I had zero fold equity. Following this I'm pretty confident Quads and cAmmAndo are both correct. I should have dropped them from my raising range to limping or just started folding them altogether.

You need to be very careful that you are only entering pots with non-value hands when you have confidence in your reads and a plan to win that doesn't involve hitting and getting paid by second best hands.

This happens to me so often - I run good and think I'm much better than I am then I don't notice it was the cards propping me up till long after their support has dropped away!

Fold them pre flop if you're not sure what you're doing with them.

They generally require you to be able to play then without actually making a hand sometime of the time, and if you have to ask if they are a leak then there's a good chance that you aren't doing that.