Villain: Is somewhat new to table however has been raising a ton especially in position. Has called 2 3 bets previously but did not go to showdown. Have not seen him make any "big bluffs."

Hero: Young internet looking tag. Has not played many hands while villain has been here.

Also know that villain was playing 1-2 before his 1-2 game broke and he moved here.


$2/5 NL (10 handed)
Villain is button with around 1k
Hero is bb and covers

Hero is dealt KK

1 limp, folds to button(villain) who raises to 30, sb calls 30, Hero 3 bets to 110, limper folds, villain calls and sb folds.

At this point im putting villain an extremely wide range of hands, he just seems like the person to gamble.

Flop ($260) 1082

Hero bets 180, villain calls.

Turn ($620) Q

Just wondering whats our plan on this turn card given the pot is 620 and effective stacks are a little over a pot-sized bet. Thank you and all input will be appreciated.

Bigger pre, bigger flop. That way u can just commit and not scratch the head.

But the main reason for sizing bigger is pure value. V is described as gambky type who calls wide range.... So build that pot..
As played, just.1/2 pot/call

ya the one thing i did regret about this hand was both sizing on flop and preflop especially...but this turn card just sucks

The only way not to get stacks in is c/f turn which is absurd since his range otf is not just qq, flush draws.. if we open jam turn is hard to get called by worse, so just half pot it, maybe he's bad enough to think a jam on that wet turn has fold equity

Fwiw, I would bet 120-140 OTF. There isn't really a need to bet more and it's pretty standard for 3b-pot-cbets to be closer to HP.

What are we accomplishing by bing 120 otf? Setting up a raise? Ensuring enough to pot control?

Dunno, usually I don't fold much and specifically against lag wannabes I like betting for value and getting stack in, and bigger sizings accomplish that easier imo..

I'm assuming effective stacks were $1000? Right?

If so, then the bet-sizing pre-flop is not a major issue. With a 3bet of $110, the SPR is still less than 4, low enough to commit. A 3bet of $130 would reduce the SPR to under 3, but can't see this making the hand too much easier to play. However, generally I favour a larger bet-sizing with KK, if you think you can get away with it.

The flop bet is a little different. With a 1/2 pot bet, it's still easy enough to commit stacks by the river (i.e a 1/2 pot turn-1/2 pot river line). A 1/2 pot flop bet does allow for a pot-management/bluff-catching approach to the hand, which, against this type of Villain, might be beneficial.

The Q is a tricky turn card. OP, what are Villain's 3bet calling and flop continuation ranges? In my view, you need to establish these ranges before deciding how to play the turn.

Yes we started with effective stacks of 1000. Villain hasn't folded to a 3 bet yet at this table and was raising around 50 percent of hands, 75 percent in late position, saw him table 92dd in showdown one hand.

Raise pre is fine. Definitely do not need to bet bigger on the flop- less is probably better to get a wider range to call and we can still get stacks in just fine with a $120 bet.

Fwiw, I am b/f the turn. If he calls I'm probably jamming the river.

Sometimes Villains can loose preflop and player tighter postflop. What's his continuation range?

I can see the following:

• draws (Ax, KJ, 89, 79, 67) = 15 combos
• OESD (J9) = 16 combos
• Sets and 2pair (10s, 8s, 2s, 108, Q10) = 30 combos
• TP (10J, 910, K10, A10, 107s) = 47 combos

So, on the turn you are behind 61 combos and beating 47. Significantly against 31 combos (straights and flushes) you have zero equity.

I reckon you need to crunch your equity overall. You need over 35% to continue with this hand, especially as FE is irrelevant in this case.

Given the extra stats, raising pre is fine (110 is nearly 4x why would you 3b more), flop is fine, i'm b/c on the turn/ jam non diamond river

Bet $130 on flop, $260-$300 on turn, fold to raise. If called I guess ship any river? Not sure though... seems bad if a diamond or Ace falls.

My guess is he finds a raise earlier in the hand with his sets and big draws at least some percentage of the time.

im either betting 1/2 pot on th turn and commiting on any non diamond, or im crecking the turn.