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04-14-2012, 07:08 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2010
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$5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
$5/5 game, I am sitting with ~$600, villain covers. Table has a couple whales and a few nits. It's a very good game.
Villain is a recreational, losing player. Mid 40s, runs a VIP service in Vegas. Plays loose aggressive. Opening 50% of pots(any connected, any suited+), calling 3bets light, double/triple barreling at horrible times. Villain fast plays draws, and I've seen him c/r KQo in a 3-way pot on a K 7 2r board to a preflop raiser on the btn. Aside from that, villain has bet barreled TP with the preflop initiative, or taken c/c lines with middle pair/TP.
Hero has a nitty, losing image. I am calling and 3betting in good spots, but whiffing everything and giving up after a cbet. I haven't showed up with a bluff in a couple hours.
Preflop: 1 limper in EP, villain opens in MP for $20, 1 caller, hero is on the BTN with AKhh and raises to $65, villain calls, limper folds.
Flop($150): 9x 6h 3x
Villain checks, Hero bets $80 (bad cbet spot?), villain super snap raises to $200, hero re-raises $535 and is all-in.
Okay line, or is flop a fold?
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04-14-2012, 07:12 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 458
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
Wait...for...a...better...spot....against....a.... level 1...player
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04-14-2012, 07:20 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
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Originally Posted by VvsKing
Wait...for...a...better...spot....against....a.... level 1...player
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I should also point out that 2 whales are over 300BBs deep at the table
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04-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 823
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
Good CB spot against a fit-or-folder. And I would 2barrel a heart OTT. But against this villain, check it back.
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04-14-2012, 10:47 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 649
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
Firstly reraise more pre when there is a caller in front of you, I would raise to $75-90, as played I would just muck your hand after the raise otf, I think the cbet is fine, you are just gonna find so many other spots to take advantage him.
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04-14-2012, 11:39 PM
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The Situation
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA and Vegas
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
Well played on all streets. I like the preflop 3-bet sizing because WE WANT CALLERS!!! It's not like this is a six way limpfest, there's only two villians here and we want them both to call as that leads to a fat pot on flop.
As played, there is no way in all the seven hells when I don't have a raging boner on this board vs the villain you describe. His range is probably 77-KK, ATs - AK and he would shove this flop with 60% of this range so we are way ahead.
If he flopped a set, meh no way we are making a soul read on this V to where we can fold AA to him.
So get it in and if he got lucky, meh, that's poker.
EDIT: I thought you had AA not AK , seriously WTF are you doing??? WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BLUFF OUT A LEVEL I AGGRO DONK WHO HAS SHOWN STRENGTH. HE'S NEVER FOLDING. MAKE A HAND AND THEN STACK HIM
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04-14-2012, 11:41 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Southern California
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
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Originally Posted by tmckendry
I should also point out that 2 whales are over 300BBs deep at the table
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Villian calls, limper folds....You're now HU in the hand, unless I read it wrong? You are getting cute against a guy who cannot see past his own hand, so when he flops TPTK, and you have an overpair,set,2pair+ etc you are getting it all because he has "Top pair"...wait...for...a...better....spot...against. ..a...level 1....player
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04-14-2012, 11:49 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Southern California
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
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Originally Posted by dgiharris
Well played on all streets. I like the preflop 3-bet sizing because WE WANT CALLERS!!! It's not like this is a six way limpfest, there's only two villians here and we want them both to call as that leads to a fat pot on flop.
As played, there is no way in all the seven hells when I don't have a raging boner on this board vs the villain you describe. His range is probably 77-KK, ATs - AK and he would shove this flop with 60% of this range so we are way ahead.
If he flopped a set, meh no way we are making a soul read on this V to where we can fold AA to him.
So get it in and if he got lucky, meh, that's poker.
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Pre-flop he played his hand fine, I personally make it a tad more, but all in all 3betting is obviously the standard play. I'm not sure if you think OP has AA because that is the tone I am getting from your post, but OP has Ace high and just got check raised on a super dry board by a non-creative player...non creative players dont c/r with 45 for a straight draw, and even if he did why do you want to gamble with Ace high vs a 14out hand? I am using 45 as the very bottom of this guys range, which I still don't think he has...even if OP ends up posting guy had KJ and was spazzing out and my Ace high held up, I don't like the play against THIS TYPE OF PLAYER...
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04-15-2012, 12:08 AM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 649
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Re: $5/5, AKs 3b pot, flop c/r vs aggro
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Originally Posted by dgiharris
Well played on all streets. I like the preflop 3-bet sizing because WE WANT CALLERS!!! It's not like this is a six way limpfest, there's only two villians here and we want them both to call as that leads to a fat pot on flop.
As played, there is no way in all the seven hells when I don't have a raging boner on this board vs the villain you describe. His range is probably 77-KK, ATs - AK and he would shove this flop with 60% of this range so we are way ahead.
If he flopped a set, meh no way we are making a soul read on this V to where we can fold AA to him.
So get it in and if he got lucky, meh, that's poker.
EDIT: I thought you had AA not AK , seriously WTF are you doing??? WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BLUFF OUT A LEVEL I AGGRO DONK WHO HAS SHOWN STRENGTH. HE'S NEVER FOLDING. MAKE A HAND AND THEN STACK HIM
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Haha I was only gonna post to give you props for the seven hells comment, currently 2/3 of the way through the first book, almost like it as much as The Wire, which I'm addicted to even after finishing the series two times. Then I saw you edited your post, which made me even more happy.
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