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5/5 - 2pair facing heat on ugly runout. 5/5 - 2pair facing heat on ugly runout.

08-16-2017 , 11:54 PM
BB = Frequencies suggest TAG, but I think the guy's LAGging it up more & might be on some sort of tilt. A bad gambly reg kept calling this guy a good player and he got upset, saying "if I'm so good why am I down 3k this month?"

There was no showdown but he claimed to have bluffed in a previous pot where I called BB, there was a field raiser, and he flatted OTB. I had A5o, flopped an A and took a c/c line OTF and OTT to the pf raiser who was leading. Me and the pf raiser checked river and he lead out for ~3/4 pot. We both folded. (pf raiser was wide & bluffy)

He also 3b in position $105 to a TAG looking new kid's open to $20 and another caller. He accidentally flipped a 6 and was asked to reveal another card, which was an offsuit 9.

~$800 eff

UTG: new to table but so far seems like a huge station. ~$500 eff

UTG limps, BTN limps, Hero checks SB w. J9, BB checks.

$14

AJ9

Hero $10, BB calls, UTG calls, fold

$44

8

Hero $45 (miscalculated pot to $60), call, call

$178

6

Hero x, BB $200, fold, Hero?

I'm thinking V either backed into a flush or missed one... possibly made a straight as well. We need to be good ~35% to break even. Are we there?
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08-17-2017 , 12:18 AM
meh, I think I sigh-fold river. Even though broadway gutshots missed, he's betting slightly bigger than pot, and against his sizing, I think we fold here. If he bets smaller, I might consider looking him up here. Don't think we're good around 35% of the time here.


If he's betting a lone Ace on the river because he's bad, then I might find a call, but in general, I think we have to find a fold here.
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08-17-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
BB = Frequencies suggest TAG, but I think the guy's LAGging it up more & might be on some sort of tilt. A bad gambly reg kept calling this guy a good player and he got upset, saying "if I'm so good why am I down 3k this month?"

There was no showdown but he claimed to have bluffed in a previous pot where I called BB, there was a field raiser, and he flatted OTB. I had A5o, flopped an A and took a c/c line OTF and OTT to the pf raiser who was leading. Me and the pf raiser checked river and he lead out for ~3/4 pot. We both folded. (pf raiser was wide & bluffy)

He also 3b in position $105 to a TAG looking new kid's open to $20 and another caller. He accidentally flipped a 6 and was asked to reveal another card, which was an offsuit 9.

~$800 eff

UTG: new to table but so far seems like a huge station. ~$500 eff

UTG limps, BTN limps, Hero checks SB w. J5/5 - 2pair facing heat on ugly runout.:95/5 - 2pair facing heat on ugly runout.:, BB checks.

$14

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Hero $10, BB calls, UTG calls, fold

$44

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Hero $45 (miscalculated pot to $60), call, call

$178

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Hero x, BB $200, fold, Hero?

I'm thinking V either backed into a flush or missed one... possibly made a straight as well. We need to be good ~35% to break even. Are we there?
The range I'd assign him here looks like {KhTh+, KdQd, KdTd, QJs, QTs(2), JTs, T9s, 8d7d} Only giving 2 combos of QTs due to villain raising some on turn.
Against that range you have 42.8% equity. Not a snap call by any means, but given that exact range it's a call. However, it's a very difficult decision in the moment, making it probably break even to call/fold there.

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08-17-2017 , 02:34 AM
I might have made a blocker bet like another $45 or so and folded if I got raised.

But AP, I'd probably just fold. I really don't like playing big pots in unraised pots.
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08-17-2017 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kansaisupra
I might have made a blocker bet like another $45 or so and folded if I got raised.

But AP, I'd probably just fold. I really don't like playing big pots in unraised pots.
I don't think a "blocker bet" will accomplish anything here. He may raise you with every hand I've listed above anyways. Folding because you "don't like playing big pots in unraised pots" isn't really a valid reason to fold here (although an understandable emotional reason). I think based on range and bet size it really doesn't matter if you call or fold in this spot in the long term.

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08-17-2017 , 04:34 PM
Seems close. If he's a thinking player I don't think he over bets pot with something like AQ on the river assuming he called pre with and AQ type anyway.

The bet is certainly polarizing his range to bluff/near nuts. It's likely he has a A6dd/A8dd and backed into two pairs, but how often does he just calls turn with A8dd? Maybe he's calling with a FD thinking the fish behind is also on a FD and try to stack him?

We have to give him all combo spade/diamond Broadway (KT, KQ, QT) 2 of which were nesting and 4 that were losing to.

However, I think we can discount QT given no raise on the turn on a wet board. So we're beating and losing to 2 combos of KT/KQ

Against this range I think we have about 40% equity, but the chance that he's a thinking player that has shown the ability to bluff id lean towards a call.

But as someone mentioned above, I'd bet/fold the river to $80-100 instead of checking.


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08-18-2017 , 12:19 PM
I can go either way, but he did bet into another player who had yet to act, with H still in hand. I probably sigh fold.

I like a bet/fold of ~$100 on river.
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08-18-2017 , 02:00 PM
Bet folding 100ish and check calling are both fine and what id prob do

I hate check folding on this runout but don't think it's a terrible mistake either
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