OK...so it seems consensus is that I should have Cbet flop...I actually wanted to pot control AND use "I'm weak, come bet me out of this hand I am not getting bet out of." (trap). But I get the suggestion and am OK with it.
Here's where I was at on river in my head. I generally will make this call and lament afterwards for being coolered. Big laydowns is not my strength, readily admit. BUT, and this is where I feel OK with my decision (which was fold), if I pick up on the following...which others felt as well...I think it had to be right.
IMO He shows the jack for one reason and one reason only...to get a call. Why risk encouraging a possible weak/any flush to call unless you want it to?
Why the tank, the gimmicky show one card, then the shrug and shove? I don't think he thought I was as strong as I was...I think he believes that by showing me the jack I get an inflated opinion of my heart and call.
In the end, I believe only 2 hands are really likely. 1 makes me sick to my stomach (K
J
) and the other is obviously what I felt he had and why I laid down...QxJ
. It's the turn bet that gives me pause by him...and the only thing that keeps KJ in my head.
As it is, I figure..you're up in the bigger game...if you are wrong here you are back to playing scared if you fold you still got bullets to get back to real poker...I fold and end up walking out with $1300+. I can live with it if I was wrong. And I feel I can sit that game again...I later bluffed huge pre against him and another guy and then got there with garbage flush that I never had to show. That's not important other than to make me feel that if you cannot bluff at all in a game...it's too big for you.
Thanks to all for replies.