Nah I think he shows up with a bricked straight draw more than often enough to justify calling here getting 4:1

Surprising, I would think he is open-raising nearly 100% of the time.

Yeah I would have not put any of the KX hands in his range except KT but that is like 4 combos

Whats up with small raise from the SB? Standard here for me is 35-45, not sure if you play in a tighter game though.

Did you not account for all 10xd type of hands? ATd, QTd, JTd, etc are probably a big portion of his range when he quickly calls the turn.

River IMO is probably just a check/fold. If the river was a diamond that didn't pair the T, I might bet/fold, but that river destroys you.

opinions on c/c turn?

c/calling the turn is leaving a lot of $ on the table imo

Wait river is the Td, can't have Txdd anymore.

is b/b/b going to get calldowns from worse vs a villain who presumably isn't a dummy? vs b/c/b?

Yeah I see it all the time, and we are getting value from two obvious draws and a lot of players are seeing all 16 combos of 78 and all 4 combos of 75s with hands like TXdd definitely seeing the river.

Thanks for all comments again, didn't expect to get this much traffic.


Yeah, I can see the argument for too small of a pre-flop raise. Wasn't the tightest table but wasn't very loose either. 20-25 was standard pre-flop for most. Playing out of position is definitely a very weak part of my game, and maybe this is where I could do better with another caller I probably do make it a little more, just didn't think it was necessary. 30-35 probably would have been better, IMO 40+ would price everything but better hands out.

I have really been trying to work on making effective bet amounts and I can see pre-flop being a little bigger.

Villain had not been calling many pre-flop raises. He had called a few of mine though, especially after the hand with the flush I mentioned in the OP. The other two guys were somewhat looser.


Any thought on betting river? Pot control/blocker type bet? I'm not one to usually make these bets but it seems like a spot for one.

This doesn't smell like villain has 78, 75s in his range to me

Yeah you are probably right, I didn't put too much emphasis on PF range because I don't exactly know what Hero means by "tight" etc..

I also don't cbet this into 4 players. You'd have to have a tremendous image, and if guys are sticky or bluffy it's going to be tough.

I'd actually rather have QJ here than AK to cbet because queens and jacks which should be your other barrel cards actually connect pretty well with the 10 and often give villains 2 pair. Aces and kings are the ultimate scare cards, but they're also the cards you need to hit to pair up.