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Old 06-28-2012, 08:26 PM   #1
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2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

9 Handed, Home/Club game, 2/5NL

Hero has about $625 in chips and covers villain (MP1) who has about $250 in chips. I doubled up my first 10 minutes at the table with AA>KK all in pre against another opponent. I've been at the table 15 minutes now and have no significant prior history with anyone.

Hero is on the BTN with AJ
2 Folds, MP1 Calls $5, 2 Folds, CO Calls $5, Hero Raises to $25, 2 Folds, MP1 Calls $25, CO Folds

Flop: ($57)
A87
MP1 Checks, Hero Bets $35, MP1 Calls $35

Turn: ($115)
J
MP1 Bets $45, Hero Calls $45

River: ($205)
4
MP1 Pushes All-in for $150, Hero Folds


I was noticing MP1 before and thought that he was weak. But I have only been at the table 15 minutes. So it's hard to know yet for sure. He gave off a tell on the flop though, his stared really hard at the flop like his eyes almost came out of his head. I thought he hit a flush draw from gauging his reaction. As played, was it ok to call his donk bet on the turn? This is pretty standard right? I mean there's no way I can call this river without an uber read and my read is opposite that anyways. I think he made his draw. Any argument for shoving the turn? When is it bleeding money to call the turn in spots like this?
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:38 PM   #2
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Re: 2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

flatting the turn is ok in my book depending on the villain.

in this case i'd flat, you're new to table, no reads, no nothing, so against the mysterious unknown flatting is your best bet.

besides if you boat up on the river, you're gonna stack him.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:52 PM   #3
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Re: 2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

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besides if you boat up on the river, you're gonna stack him.
He has $150 behind which isn't a lot for me to flat $45 with 4 outs to boat up for me to stack him with. I only really want to flat the turn if I think I am ahead honestly.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:39 PM   #4
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Re: 2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

he has $150 for $45.that's better than 10-1

hitting your boat is about 9%...close enough?
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:37 AM   #5
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Re: 2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

Turn pot is 115. Villain leads for 45 to make pot 160. Villain has 145 behind to make pot+stack = 305 that we're eying if we stack him. 305/45 = 6.8:1 on odds to call looking to stack Villain. As a percent that is 12.8% but we're only about 9% to boat up on the river.

I don't think we're ahead on the turn. I know we have no information, but for Villain to play the hand as passively as he has preflop and on the flop and now he feels that it would be awful if the turn checks through, he's making sure money is getting in now, I'm pretty sure he's made the flush, if not at worst playing a set kind of weirdly. I fold the turn.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:14 AM   #6
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Re: 2/5NL: AJ and top 2 on a flush board...line check

^^^^Thanks, and I think you are right. I should have folded the turn. Calling there was a leak which was essentially what my question was with this thread since this spot comes up a lot.
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